Ive never understood why so many people seem to cheer for Elon's companies to fail.

People generally hate to see scams stealing money from naive marks. Both SpaceX and Tesla are obvious scams at anything close to their current valuations (despite having real, functional businesses in there! ), that Elon keeps pumping up with ever more ridiculous claims (50 million humanoid robots by 2026/7! Tesla Roadster out by 2024, pre-order now! Starship point-to-point for business travel by 2030! Datacenters in space!).

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Retr0id a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude#Psychological_ca...

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thinkingtoilet a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because he's a psychopath who is actively making the world worse. Anyone who stands on stage with a chain saw and cuts US AID with a smile on his face is a truly horrible person. Anyone who hoards a trillion dollars while others starve is a truly horrible person. Did you root for the Empire in Star Wars? I hope nothing but the worst for him so maybe someone with a conscious and a soul replaces him.

	▲	d4ng a day ago \| parent [-]
		It has helped me to live with the model that the probability of there being any sort of objective morality or ethics is close to zero, and that a hierarchy of influence within any given context is generally unavoidable. Once you accept this model, you spend less time moralising and angering yourself over perceived wrongs, and can now spend more time on figuring out how to live a happier life despite the fact that there are no set rules.

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panick21_ a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I was a fan of early Elon. He had many problems but he was overall good.

Then he turned full ultra right wing nationalist who engaged in science denial. Supported a president that is unquestionably racists and unquestionably fascists. And he made this clear by doing some Nazi salutes on top of that.

Then he used that influence to sell a completely false idiotic story that cuts to discretionary spending could 'fix' the budget deficit, like a complete idiot who had never watched 2 youtube videos about the US budget. Then used to slash and burn many beneficial programs while having no impact on the deficit what so ever.

He was supposed to be science and engineering progress driven, but then allied himself with ultra-right wing anti-scientific fascists who try to dismantle the whole education system in favor of at best best creationism or more likely nothing at all.

Not sure why its hard to understand. The only people who don't understand are ultra-right wing facists who don't understand why other people don't want to support ultra-right wing facists.

Does that explanation help?

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defmetrix a day ago | parent [-]

I hear what you are saying. There are many CEOs and companies that I also dont like. But I dont spend everyday checking their stock price and cheering for them to fail like they are my rival sports team. I just dont understand why many people are so glued to watching his companies, rooting for failure, and running to post on the internet as soon as something bad happens. I cant think of a similar situation.

	▲	panick21_ a day ago \| parent [-]
		SpaceX is not just any old company. Its a trillion $ company at the heart of one of the most contentious topic in the modern world, AI. And its not just relevant for Elon, its also about the general outlook for the economy and AI. Most people retirements are in index funds that Musk tried to manipulate, so the stock value coming down before any S&P inclusion is important for many on a personal level. Also, the reality is, Elon made himself a massive public figure deliberately, he very publicly embraced one side of the culture war and make his opinion on every public constantly. He literally one of the most important people because he literally bought one of the largest media platforms and made sure it fully embraced right wing points of view. You are complaining why Elon is in public debate and people are so interested. That's because politics is a public argument between different parties, and Elon has used all his influence to support one side of that. And that is the result. And not just in the US, Elon tried to insert himself into politics of other nations, such as Britain or Germany as well. Making most of the western world angry. Why are you surprised that he gets treated like a politician when he acting like a politician? You can't be the CEO of total independent technocratic companies and at the same time be a public ultra-right wing facist supporter who endlessly engages in a public culture war. Specially if those companies are directly linked to him view voting shares that give him ultimate power.