also the ride, and the interior is not great though post-covid all the other manufacturers except the japanese are speed running to that same interior setup

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b40d-48b2-979e an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I'm waiting to sell it for an EV minivan to come out. The Mercedes VLE looks interesting. I was hopeful for the VW Bus, but it's just underwhelming.

	▲	hnav a few seconds ago \| parent [-]
		the VLE looks great but the pricepoint basically limits it to livery use in cosmopolitan cities. I'm thinking they'll probably sell 1000s of units over the whole run in north america