Fuck the DEA -- they need to be abolished today.

Then, fuck all the kratom vendors that absolutely irresponsibly market their products.

I've used kratom for 10 years for pain management and it was my best option at the time.

Drugs should not be illegal -- they should be regulated, for purity and for truth in advertising (in the case of kratom making it crystal clear that addiction is inevitable with regular constant use.

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cliglot a day ago | parent | next [-]

> I've used kratom for 10 years for pain management and it was my best option at the time.

Any weird side effects. My girlfriend and I tend to use Kratom for the mild stimulant effect.

The worst is ever done for me is make me nauseous enough to vomit, but I live in a state trying to ban all kratom now and the discourse around it is full of anecdotes of people claiming withdrawals as bad as heroin.

Now I’m not a big heroin user, but I’ve been mildly addicted to certain substances (nicotine, weed). I don’t think I’ve ever had withdrawals from Kratom or really felt any craving for it.

I’m really just hoping the busy-bodies don’t get their eyes on Kava.

	▲	anon84873628 a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I found this video from a kratom user very illuminating: https://youtu.be/TLObpcBR2yw
	▲	platevoltage a day ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I think if you're at the stage where it still makes you nauseous, you're probably not at the point where you would experience any withdrawals.
	▲	pstuart a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I have side effects that are significant enough to warrant finding another avenue to address the pain. I knew what I was getting into, but chronic pain is a bitch and I'll do whatever I can to minimize it.

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platevoltage a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I can't agree more. Addiction treatment is expensive and out of reach for people who, lets say, aren't part of a political dynasty, and the money we dump into the war on drugs could fund free rehab for people who want to get better. I've been using 10-20mg of cannibis edibles per evening for a few years and I've never needed to increase my dosage.

And Yeah, I experimented with Kratom for stress/anxiety/sleep problems. It sucks. Your tolerance increases rapidly, and at the rate I was taking it, withdrawals weren't that bad, but it wasn't fun either.

	▲	pstuart a day ago \| parent [-]
		This is why every kratom vendor should have explicit warnings about addition risks as well as being tested for potency, and purity / contaminants.