| ▲ | Avicebron 2 days ago |
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| ▲ | ok123456 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| 7-OH is the name for derivatives of kratom that contain the active ingredients. It has opioid-like addiction tendencies. Lots of people who used kratom to wean themselves off opioids are now addicted to 7-OH. This includes many people over the age of 30. |
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| ▲ | 1f60c 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Evan Edinger (who is 35) was addicted to it (see YouTube link). |
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| ▲ | Krutonium 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's a not-opioid that just plays with the opiate receptors in your brain and can be purchased in a concentrated form at your nearest gas station in a lot of US States. |
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| ▲ | kami23 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Kratom has been around for a while, I remember seeing it in headshops at least a decade ago. |
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| ▲ | mjthrowaway1 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | This is different. There’s the plant. Contains about 1.5% mitragynine. Then there were purified extracts of the active alkaloids in the plant. Started around 30% mitragynine years ago now in the 85% range. Then there were synthetic derivatives of mitragynine (7oh, mgm-15, etc.). These are much more fun/addictive and surprisingly safe. Almost all “overdoses” involved a mix of alcohol or other drugs. Much safer than fentanyl or traditional opioids because it doesn’t meaningfully trigger respiratory depression leading to asphyxiation. Unfortunately, they’re also addictive. The harm level, imho, was somewhere around alcohol or nicotine. | |
| ▲ | NDlurker 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I used to order it online in like 2005. Crude extracts were available maybe since 2007. The plant almost got banned several years ago. Then over the last few years all these extracts and derivatives have been coming out. MGM-15 is stronger than heroin from what I've heard. Strongest stuff I ever tried was a mitragynine gummy and it felt like hydrocodone. That one gummy had the effects of what I used to get from a couple cups of tea. Good stuff but not risking addiction to try it again. Made me nauseous too |
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| ▲ | nubinetwork 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I thought they were talking about krokodil, but nope... I've literally never heard of 7-oh. |
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| ▲ | jambalaya8 2 days ago | parent [-] | | yeah, I remember that one, and the bath salts thing. bleh. | | |
| ▲ | NDlurker 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Bath salts were synthetic cathinones. Sold online as plant food and bath salts because they were not for human consumption ;) And then they started getting sold in head shops and gas stations. Some are highly addictive, some are more benign. Methylone was a great cheap MDMA alternative and is one of the drugs that Trump signed an executive order to fast track studying for PTSD. As a guy posting on a nerd message board, you'd probably enjoy the nerdiness of the guys on Bluelight and places like that getting money together to have Chinese labs synthesize the chemicals they theorized would get em high. |
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