Isn't employer dependent healthcare basically slavery, blackmail or both ?

vladvasiliu 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This often comes up in discussions pitting the US against the EU countries.

I'm not familiar with all of them, but here in "free, socialized healthcare" France, if you don't have a "mutuelle", which seems similar to "employer-dependant healthcare" in the US, you're going to have to pay out of pocket quite a lot of money. Maybe not as much as in the US (not familiar with that country), but very much not free. Think dental, glasses, needing to spend a night in a hospital for whatever reason (even public ones!), etc. On top of your salary being much lower.

Sure, you don't need an employer to have a mutuelle, you can pay for your own. But it's usually pricier and worse coverage.

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tempfile an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Only to the extent that all waged employment is basically slavery (since healthcare is even less critical than food, water and housing).

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microtonal an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Also in the US. In many other countries, you do not only initially get unemployment benefits, but also a form of basic income if the unemployment benefits expire and you haven't found a job, plus rent compensation, etc.

	▲	petcat an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> In many other countries, you do not only initially get unemployment benefits, but also a form of basic income if the unemployment benefits expire and you haven't found a job, plus rent compensation, etc. It's the same everywhere in the US. Colloquially called "collecting unemployment".

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robtherobber an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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