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khriss 2 hours ago

Sure, but why should regular people pay for the upgrades needed to power data centers? The tech companies can surely afford that easily given their record profits for the past decade?

fsckboy an hour ago | parent | next [-]

supply and demand. there is more demand, prices go up, the market allocates, it's the best way, no other way comes close to making the overall price level to be as cheap as possible.

mlindner 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Forcing all costs on to new entrants in a market is generally a bad thing for the market and causes it to not expand fast enough. Also they may just choose to not participate in the market at all. I.e they'll bring in a whole lot of natural gas generators, put them in the parking lot and call it good, which is not a good thing long term.

SOLAR_FIELDS 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why would any reasonable governing entity (I understand we live in a world where there are not many of these) allow you to run a bunch of natural gas generators in a parking lot?

blackqueeriroh an hour ago | parent [-]

Probably because there are laws that exist

gravypod 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Forcing all costs into externalities is also not ideal. Right now, some state's systems, force residential consumers to pay for new infrastructure for new demand while only minimal costs are paid by the new customer.

blackqueeriroh an hour ago | parent [-]

All or minimal costs? You’ve provided two contradicting statements here.

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blackqueeriroh an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Because they like shopping on Amazon and watching Netflix?

raydev 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Consumers are already paying Amazon and Netflix directly.

beepbooptheory 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

But like, just hypothetically here, what if they don't? Isn't that the framing here?

Like, don't get me wrong, if we want to start talking about more centralized organization of the economy that operates on the calculated total benefit it provides to people in general, I am personally all for that. But something tells me that is not quite the argument you are wanting to make here, right?