Well studies show that early school start times are bad for kids anyway so schools should fix their schedules. Kids also naturally like to stay up later these days so more daylight would better match that rather than keeping awake with artificial light.

I also dispute that site's claim that everyone starts before 8am. Here on the west coast I'd say most jobs start at 9am unless they are retail. A lot of schools have also switched to later start times.

Not to mention: DST is already in effect for 65% of the year.

Permanent DST has been introduced in congress every year since 2018. A few years ago it passed the Senate but the house didn't take it up. This time the house has passed it but who knows if the Senate will take it up. I'd prefer to be on permanent DST but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

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kayfox 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Here on the west coast I'd say most jobs start at 9am

If you work on things for banks, financial markets or the federal government, you may be starting as early as 5~6am on the west coast.

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_--__--__ 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

People who work in finance and certain fields of law on the west coast start their day at 9AM eastern time.

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slowin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

And those people are optimizing for money, "prestige" or something other than having a healthy schedule. We definitely should not dictate the entire country's sleep around west coast financiers.

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_--__--__ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

But we're cool with this bill pushed by people whose primary concern is more tee times in Florida in January?

I lived most of my life in a place that already has days with post 8AM winter sunrises on Standard time and can only really get up with the sun. Permanent DST forces many people to start their day long before sunrise and somehow I'm supposed to believe that's the 'good for sleep' option.

	▲	slowin 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yep, we're cool with it because changing the clocks twice a year is ridiculous. People should live in an environment they're comfortable in. We should also push for a culture of not having to wake up at absolutely insane times in the morning. Like I said in another comment, this is a huge opportunity for many people to WFH and just ditch the commute. Positive changes all around.