End it.

Make reselling tickets illegal again overall.

Allow resale within 5 days of the show only (for those that genuinely can't make it), and for face value+original fees only.

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LeoPanthera an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The UK is passing a law which makes it illegal to resell event tickets for greater than the face value.

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oatmeal1 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Live Nation needs to get the guillotine. The monopoly will find other ways of extracting value if you try to fix one problem created by it at a time.

	▲	reactordev 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Except Live Nation owns most of the venues that aren’t stadiums. The mom and pop’s couldn’t compete with their monopoly and went under or sold to them.

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Analemma_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The fact that "the name on the ticket must match your photo ID, but you can resell at any time before the event" would instantly solve scalping problems and yet nobody does it is your clue that nobody actually wants scalping problems to be solved. Scalpers are the sin eaters for Ticketmaster and the events themselves, taking the hate so the performers don't have to.

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sofixa 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Adding ID checks would make venue entry a slower and more tedious process.

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janalsncm an hour ago | parent | next [-]

In practice a lot of venues are already 21+ so they are already checking IDs.

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rtpg 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe a bit of a dystopian situation but ... I think this was 10 year ago now I went to an Utada Hikaru concert where I had to upload a picture of myself on a dedicated website and when the tickets were scanned I think they had access to that picture

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1986 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the vast majority of venues, ID checks are happening anyway to verify eligibility for drinking.

	▲	gonight an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yup, I'm in 30s and have been ID'd for every show I've gone to in the last few years.

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gruez an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Adding ID checks would make venue entry a slower and more tedious process.

Airports seem to handle them just fine?

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johnthedebs an hour ago | parent [-]

Do they? Not necessarily making an argument for or against the original point, but to me airports epitomize "slow and tedious". My hunch is that they also don't handle nearly the volume of people/time that major stadiums do during event entry.

	▲	gruez an hour ago \| parent [-]
		>but to me airports epitomize "slow and tedious". That's the security check, of which id check is only one part. The bottleneck is everyone needing to take out their laptops and then repack their bags. Same with boarding. The bottleneck there is people putting their luggage into the overhead compartments.

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irishcoffee an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Here’s a wild idea, tie tickets to a drivers license/photo id number, and scan the id.

Edit guess that doesn’t work for kids. Start the tickets at 10k and drop them by a percentage a day. Automatic price discovery. Rich people can just buy them whenever they want.

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brookst an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

How do performers benefit from scalping?

	▲	mathattack 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The price tickets sell for will be higher if scalping exists. Demand increases for 2 reasons: 1 - I’m more likely to buy a ticket or pay a higher price if there’s a chance of turning a profit if I can’t go. 2 - Speculators are more likely to buy unused inventory if they can turn a profit. This increases total tickets sold. (Scalpers get paid for taking risk) I’m not defending this. I’ve given up on concerts for my favorite larger bands due to sticker shock.

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TZubiri an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Not a lawyer but here's how it works:

Illegal usually means there's a law forbidding it.

Tickets are usually governed by the Terms and Conditions (Contract) between original purchase.

It's already possible for the terms to forbid resale.

So as it stands it's possible to sell untransferable tickets. And those who sell such tickets are in breach of contract, but are not breaking a law.

What would 'making reselling tickets illegal' entail, a law that makes selling transferable tickets illegal? That would be a very weak position. A law that upgrades the resale of untransferable tickets to a crime? Again a very weak position.

I contend that people that suggest and write laws should learn about actual law.