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EGreg 3 hours ago

It seems their incentives aren’t exactly aligned with their users, including corporate users. Look at the latest statements from Alex Karp, and now Satya Nadella etc.

Is this user-hostile? Encrypting stuff from the user is what RIAA used to do with DRM, worried about copyright infringement.

pornel 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nothing by Alex Karp is aligned with any users. This guy is a mercenary, and he seems to be in this job for the love of killing.

arjie an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah but his users are hiring him to set up their killing machines so that they’ll do it better. So that makes him highly aligned with users.

Besides, the SaaSification of these things is expected. When you run a model, the reasoning traces are an internal implementation detail of the program that then results in certain user-visible output. It can be used to distill etc and most users don’t care about it.

It’s not some novel thing that internal implementation detail of software is a trade secret.

Espressosaurus 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Except I care about the reasoning trace because I can stop a rathole that burns $50 of tokens as it chews for 10 minutes before I get the desired feedback that it’s done the wrong thing.

ctkhn 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I thought tweaking was his highest calling

Obscurity4340 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Polymeth

lstodd 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Did you mean twerking?

faidit 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The man is a polymath.

echelon 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think there are OpenAI / Anthropic employees in here flagging comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48907099

These companies are behaving against the best interests of their customers.

Both OpenAI and Anthropic should be ashamed.

These companies' products are awesome, but the way they conduct business is scummy.

They must be worried there is no moat. If they keep up this behavior, there truly will be no moat. They're pushing people away.

ssgodderidge 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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