It is funny. Well-socialized person doesn't need this kind of guide, as unwritten rules of social play are learned in the process of growing-up.

But it is clear for "nerds" and "hackers" social is impenetrable, thus preference for interacting with the machine and towards techno-solutionism. What, by the way, the main reason FOSS movement will never liberate anything.

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zug_zug 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's more than that, some of us actually believe in a thing called "good work."

The idea that powerful manager saying untrue things shouldn't be contradicted may seem like "obviously correct" to you, but actually at the places where 80% of engineers call that shit out that political manager probably gets booted from the company.

But many people genuinely believe politicians are a net negative on the company as a whole, and in startups many people are willing to do/say what's best for the company without expecting some individual return.

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srean 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> unwritten rules of social play are learned in the process of growing-up.

Could you elaborate. Under which circumstances does one learn these things. Family, surely not. I hope so.

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pjmlp 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh family as well, when going beyond the one household, into the remainig family branches especially if money, property are involved, or going against the house culture and expectations for one's life choices.

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derwiki 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I learned this best in university clubs that had elected positions

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srean 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah ! Makes sense. Those places seemed quite toxic and I kept my distance from those.

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derwiki 3 hours ago | parent [-]

OOC, if you accept the premise that they would have been a good place to practice/understand this sort of thing, and got a chance to “do over,” would you still keep your distance?

	▲	srean 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Difficult to answer because I find some of the machinations so distressing. Perhaps it is the way I am wired. Given the benefits of the knowledge that became apparent later in life, I might have preferred looking on from a distance to understand how things work. But good question. You made me re-evaluated a choice I had made.

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derwiki 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I recently had a conversation with some friends, and one mentioned that she hates office politics and tries to stay out of it. It clicked for me: people who hate/abstain from office “politics” are just clueless about the social/organizational hierarchy.

Absolutely there is some real political nastiness that can happen, but 98 3/4% of what’s described as office politics really just seems like a) make decisions that are aligned with the company and b) make someone up your management chain look good.

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fragmede 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is those rules aren't the same across the world, so what works in one place doesn't apply to the next.