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jstummbillig 5 hours ago

What's the idea here? Why does this seem important to OpenAI?

embedding-shape 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Seems fairly obvious what the point from OpenAI's side is (protect what they see as the moat, that a model is "good at spawning sub-agents"), but what's really strange to me is that the team somehow didn't manage to push back on this, it's so clearly disadvantageous to developers who are trying to rely on Codex for real work. For this we need introspection into what exactly is going on, hiding the prompts is just so backwards from what I expect from OpenAI.

jstummbillig 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> protect what they see as the moat, that a model is "good at spawning sub-agents"

Yes, that is the obvious answer. I was looking for an explanation as to why and why now. Codex is open source after all. They used to not do it. Agent prompts more generally are also not encrypted, and continue to be.

This particular change just looks unintuitive to me.

lolc 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They must think they have some secret sauce they don't want others to learn. How to optimally instruct sub agents for example. If they hide the sub agent prompts, other models cannot be trained to emulate.

Oh and you can't even use local models or other providers for the sub-agents. You're locked-in.

fassssst 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What’s stopping you from creating a plugin (MCP or Skill) that acts as a subagent? The plugin could use a local model.