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iLoveOncall 2 hours ago

I agree with the sentiment but is there even any phone that doesn't run Android (or derivatives) or iOS and that can install modern "apps"?

sebtron 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why does it have to be a phone? Some people still use tablets, laptops and, believe it or not, desktop PCs.

xienze an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Smartphones are much more ubiquitous than any of those devices. Across all demographics.

marginalia_nu an hour ago | parent [-]

Accessibility doesn't end with catering to most people though. Since this will be a prerequisite to communicate online, that simply isn't good enough.

xienze 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

You're under the impression that your concerns matter. What matters is the end game of tying real identity to digital identity.

marginalia_nu 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well my concerns happen to be my constitutional rights.

iLoveOncall an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Tablets would be compatible, and there's absolutely no indication that there won't be a separate system for computers.

It's actually disingenuous to think there won't be. This is a repository for a mobile app only.

roundabout-host 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

The spec mandates mobile versions to exist, and not PC ones. While a PC version can be provided, no government will do that, because they will do the bare minimum.

roundabout-host 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Android derivatives are not considered enough, because they will not be Google-attested, so the app will refuse them.

_factor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This will ensure there never is.

lexlambda an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You must realize, age verification is for more then just Googles Android apps.

Such a strong new legal framework must consider consumer hardware actually in use:

- Android variations Like GrapheneOS, Huawei's HarmonyOS, older phones running custom ROMs - Linux phones, which are sold in the EU and by EU companies

- Desktop operating systems

All of them can run Web Apps, and thus need age verification

zzril an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My PinePhone runs postmarketOS and can technically run every modern Linux desktop "app".

hahahaa 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Run linux?