No, you don’t have an expectation of privacy on a public roadway, public parking lot, etc.

bluefirebrand 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This norm around privacy was kinda set before the concept of mass surveillance became a thing, though. Maybe we should revisit it and rethink what privacy means.

People shouldn't expect privacy in public, sure. They should expect they may be overheard or witnessed. But that's not really equivalent to mass surveillance and long-term recording

"You should not expect privacy in public" does not imply "you should expect no privacy and you should expect everything you do is recorded and stored forever"

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alex43578 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t see why you should expect any privacy in the middle of a public road. What are you doing there that is private?

I think everyone’s threat model is severely miscalibrated if they are threatened by being recorded driving somewhere via Flock, yet use a phone or social media account. There’s way more meaningful threats to actual private matters than Flock.

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bluefirebrand 4 hours ago | parent [-]

People tracking your in-person movements and behaviors is way more threatening than people tracking your online behaviors

You are seriously clueless if you think otherwise

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alex43578 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The police observing your car driving down a road is not threatening, and acting as if it is is hysteria.

Furthermore, if you’re worried about that, have you considered that “they” could get even more comprehensive tracking data just by requesting it from a data-broker? There’s no divide between the online and real world if you have a phone or an online presence.

	▲	mistercheph 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> The police observing your car driving down a road is not threatening, and acting as if it is is hysteria. Yeah, but a national license plate surveillance system that lets a single police officer observe all of the movements you and your family members make every day for the past few years is not a single police officer making a plainview observation of you driving down the road. And it's clearly a power that threatens liberties, you cannot have a free society when a government has that power. "Palantir, what are the names and home addresses of all of the people that were at the pro-Mamdani rally, show me places that many of them go to in common, I want to find where these criminals are having their secret meetings." Probably not in voice-to-text form, but this power is already in the hands of some US agencies, in part thanks to the national ALPR system.

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TxFkdZ 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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