That's the thing. The waste isn't in Federal beuracracy, it's in Federal contracts to private industry without strong self-interested oversight. The privatization trend takes a highly motivated group (companies) to milk money from an inefficient overseer.

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icedchai 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yep. I’ve worked on some federal contracts and all the waste is in private contractors, not the government itself. There are structural issues with subcontractors many layers deep, each middleman taking a cut for doing little to nothing. It’s sick.

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CobrastanJorji 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Heck, even before they do anything, there is a sizable industry (with just a few players) focused entirely on the incredibly byzantine (but originally well meaning) process of bidding for government contracts (and also the politicking of acquiring no-bid contracts).

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parineum 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And who is responsible for making sure federal contracts don't go to wasteful contractors?

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sarchertech 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah but that’s a process issue that would require deep familiarity and probably acts of Congress to fix. That’s not something a few 25 year olds with no relevant experience can come in and fix in 100 days.

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parineum 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure but this whole thread reads like it's absolving the government giving these contracts and blaming private companies.

It's the frog and the scorpion fable.

	▲	Sabinus 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		To me this whole thread reads people trying to apologise for DOGE, especially by making appeals like 'government has corruption and waste and that is bad so DOGE was good'.

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lern_too_spel 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's why smart government created USDS, to clean up the mess left by contractors who set up the original healthcare.gov by having competent people work directly for the federal government. USDS was replaced with the incompetent DOGE (now US DOGE Service) and then completely shut down due to the new organization's incompetence.

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kotaKat 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This. Why the hell are we propping up private "veteran owned" companies that repackage a few things into a Pelican case and call it a revolutionary new product and sell it for tens of thousands over MSRP?

(I've seen one too many local 'defense contractors' building 'enabler kits' which are literally just a couple laptops in a Pelican case for way too much money.)

I keep seeing this with little tiny IT companies in the fed landscape and it slightly irks me. This is just the modern form of the $400 hammer...

	▲	ThinkingGuy 17 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		While your point is perfectly valid, there's a little more nuance to the $400 (or $600) hammer story: https://www.govexec.com/federal-news/1998/12/the-myth-of-the...
	▲	alistairSH 15 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		This. I live outside DC, lots of friends who are contractors in IT/software. More than a few have been on the same contract, doing the same work, for years or decades. It's effectively a full-time permanent position, or could be. Not sure how there's any efficiency there when the contracting firm's owners need to make a cut.