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MisterTea 7 hours ago

> They won’t stop abusing us until we stop using their products.

I don't use AI at all in my daily life.

Work however will demand you use it.

AI is not here to help people.

flexagoon 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not gonna argue about the utility of AI, but isn't the statement "AI is not here to help people" completely meaningless? AI itself is not "here" for anything; the problem is big tech doing big tech shit as always, not the current technology they're doing it with.

coldtea 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Doesn't matter. Big tech is not changing anytime soon. So if we see AI, we shouldn't see as some random tool, but as something in their hands.

CamperBob2 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nothing about this has anything to do with AI. It has to do with Musk's ethical and engineering standards, or the lack thereof.

otabdeveloper4 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AI is created by big tech stealing other people's data. Yes, this has everything to do with AI - stealing data is a foundational feature of the technology.

shuwix 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's more about billions at stake and the nature of AI business. You either score big, or go belly up with diminishing funding.

munk-a 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Well let's be fair here - you either go belly up with diminishing funding or get bailed out (maybe by the government, maybe by private funds that themselves expect to be bailed out by the government).

There currently is no path towards profitability, it's just a question of whether you can grab funding before it dries up.

stronglikedan 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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anderber 6 hours ago | parent [-]

By this standard, you should never trust a directory. Since it will push your env secrets.

db48x 5 hours ago | parent [-]

You shouldn’t have secrets in your environment.

ChrisMarshallNY 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> AI is not here to help people.

True, but it isn't here to not help people, either.

It's a spanner. Who wields the spanner, makes all the difference.

We've spent the last couple of decades, cultivating a huge crop of ultimate scumbag billionaires, with comically exaggerated sociopathy, and that has filtered down to almost every level of society. They are treated as gods, these days (they certainly think of themselves that way).

It still shocks me (but really shouldn't), on a daily basis, to encounter regular folks, interacting in stores and restaurants, or driving on roads, that mirror the values systems exemplified by our billionaires. Our politicians act that way, and one of their biggest selling points, is normalizing sociopathy (not just the US, either).

zelphirkalt 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Exactly. I couldn't have said it better. I hope I will still live to see the pitchforks coming out and taking all of this crap down, but I fear it might be longer than a lifetime, before we rid ourselves of these parasites.

Groxx 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's a spanner where every quarter turn costs noticeable money. Which directly funds behavior like this.

The tool analogy is intentionally minimizing, and doesn't capture just how different rented tools with constant surveillance are.

ChrisMarshallNY 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Doesn’t absolve the spanner-wielder from responsibility, though.

We live in an age, where the mere thought of personal Responsibility is terrifying.

Groxx 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, I mean it in the sense that the spanner itself and who the spanner funnels money to is so bad that anyone using it has automatically accepted themselves being that bad. Unlike most tools (which the tool analogy leans on heavily), it's very much not an impartial tool, there is no such thing as "using it responsibly" when you're paying Musk.

sylos 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wasn't ai introduced so replace people? It's not the spanner, it's the car and we're the horses

ChrisMarshallNY 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah. It was introduced to push tech, but if you're a billionaire, then it was introduced to make you richer. They don't especially care, whether or not that involves replacing people.

Replacing people is what C-suiters think of it (and many of them aren't billionaires).