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ggm 6 hours ago

If you place a major scientifically literate economy under interdiction over critical tech that you previously gave them access to, you shouldn't be surprised if they invest energy and budget in achieving a degree of self reliance.

Surely the point here is that we might see some useful competition between VLSI sources?

Aside from military uses, this tech is capable of making China a lot of money. Had negotiations not fixated on a belief only zero sum winner-loser negotiations exist, we might be talking about this differently.

yorwba 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

China famously also invested in the ability to precisely manufacture balls for ballpoint pens, despite there being no restrictions on importing them. So you can skip the international politics: a major manufacturing economy will tend to invest into expanding their manufacturing.

A different approach to negotiations would have changed little, since Chinese industrial policy isn't just a reactive mirror of the policies of other countries. As usual, everyone just did what they were mostly going to do anyway.

RicoElectrico 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Had negotiations not fixated on a belief only zero sum winner-loser negotiations exist

This is also belief of Putin, which I suppose is not surprising given the orange man is admiring him.