And then there's clanker (which has fortunately tapered off a bit): https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

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dang 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is a nested-enough subthread that I can say whatever I want because no one will ever link to it because if they do no one will care.

The class of comments you're talking about—not just ones that say "clanker" literally but the more general category—is particle-wave undecidable right now.

If the commenter is right—i.e. if the commenter they are castigating actually did post LLM-generated text—then it's a community immune system response.

If the commenter is wrong—i.e. they are castigating a sincere human and hauling them to court on false charges—then it's the kind of attack that we tell people not to post here.

They can't know for sure whether what they're saying is true or false, and we can't know for sure whether we should moderate it. Both questions depend on information that is unavailable. This is what I mean when I say that the whole question is in a chaotic state right now, and it's too soon to know which way it will stabilize.

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not-a-llm an hour ago | parent | next [-]

and then some articles will have maybe a small section, 10% of it, LLM generated. And the it really is a superposition of LLM/human written, and flaggable/unflaggable

	▲	dang 23 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It's true! Or maybe 20% or 60% or 80%.

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minimaxir 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a fair response.

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bluefirebrand an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't envy the position you're in.

I think the decision to ban AI submissions is a good one, but ultimately it's going to create this conflict for some time, maybe a really long time until things stabilize around AI in the broader culture

I hope eventually AI usage does become a taboo, at least in some fields. Creative fields should be for creative humans, not people who can't even publish an article without the help of an LLM

	▲	dang 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Ok, but we're not talking about all AI usage. We're talking about using AI to process text that we publish for others to read. There are tons of ways to use AI that don't intersect with that.