there's an unnatural amount of doomerism against datacenters, of exactly this kind. It's pretty obviously astroturfed.

kridsdale3 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In case you didn't know, The Register has been deliberately using this kind of language about ALL topics for nearly 30 years. It's part of their appeal and brand, like The Onion. People choose to read The Register because they have this adversarial stance and humorous tone about tech.

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vkou 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The vast majority of the pro-datacenter 'externalities don't matter as long as I make money' is also pretty obviously astroturfed.

The difference is that much of the communication on that end happens in backchannels, directly with the regulators, in secret meetings, without any possibility of public scrutiny.

(When that isn't enough, the firehose of paid advertisements gets fired up to convince the public, instead.)

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hunterpayne an hour ago | parent [-]

The vast majority of the anti-datacenter movement is funded by the CCP. That's why it is so lacking in facts. Most datacenters use closed loop cooling. That means it doesn't consume water for anything more than the toilets and water fountains. Yet this talking point pops up in almost every article on the topic. Part of the reason you are seeing closed door meetings now is because leaders know that the public is profoundly misinformed on this topic. It doesn't help when AOC is waving a jar of dirty water as if it is proof of something.

	▲	vkou 10 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Most data centers do not use closed loop cooling. They all have a closed cooling loop, but almost all of them cool the exterior condensers with an open cooling loop. Which draws from the watermain, sprays water on the hot condensers, the water evaporates, cooling the condensers. This is done to reduce their electric bills, because condensers operate more efficiently when they are cold. The fully closed-loop data center, with air-cooled condensers is the exception, not the rule. Because it sucks even more electricity than a regular one, due to its less-efficient cooling. You are spreading falsehoods, while also accusing people who are factually accurate of being foreign propaganda mouthpieces. This is at best, ironic and jingoistic, and at worst...
	▲	cindyllm an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
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