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pizzafeelsright 3 hours ago

That is about 3% of California's total energy usage

Or about 11,000 GWh which is about 4% of California which means without the theatrics:

California has 4x more data centers than Ireland.

California: ~810 watts per person. (278,000 GWh / 39.4 million people)

Ireland: ~690 watts per person. (32,000 GWh / 5.3 million people)

We have air conditioning and that may be why we use more POWAH

hinkley 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm actually quite surprised that California only has 4x as many data centers, with CA having more than 7x the population (not to mention being pivotal in the Information Age)

paleotrope an hour ago | parent [-]

California is not a great place to build data centers. If you need to service CA, there are better options

hinkley an hour ago | parent [-]

Oh yeah, power distribution is kind of a circus there isn't it.

tims33 an hour ago | parent [-]

Power, land, water, people - all expensive in CA.

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What fraction of Irish GDP is linked to datacenters? If I remember correctly from the pre-AI world, datacenters were at the heart of Dublin's industrial strategy, and they were credibly linked to a double-digit fraction of production.

stuaxo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Irelands big pull to these companies is to not tax them as much as other countries.

dboreham 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That said, once built and lit up, it's hard to move a data center to another country.

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dilyevsky an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Like 90%+ cost of a dc is actual computers which are pretty shippable

henry2023 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Even in the hypothetical that datacenters would double Ireland’s GDP what real positive impact would it have if they pay zero taxes?

a_paddy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They do pay tax, 12.5%. Plus employment during construction and maintenance. There's also ancillary investment in national infrastructure such as Google's CO2 battery

hunterpayne 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The rest of Europe sued Ireland to get them to stop being a tax haven. Ireland basically refuses to do so. If they did, most of their economy evaporates overnight (and the US government gets a lot more tax revenue). Ireland's economy is basically 2 tax shelters in a trench coat.

phs318u 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Did you mean hypothesis?

henry2023 an hour ago | parent [-]

I meant hypothetical, thanks for pointing it out.