This article was pretty light on the sheer amount of Western aid provided to Ukraine.

The whole thing is a cluster. A ton of Ukrainian people *are* ethnically Russian, particularly in the east. They aren’t exactly going to be ok under a NATO backed regime that’s hostile to Russia.

Russia shouldn’t tolerate NATO troops stationed on one of its longest land borders.

I guarantee if the Chinese worked out a deal to station troops in northern Mexico we wouldn’t be happy.

Unfortunately the conflict has also revealed a disgusting double standard in Western media.

Ukrainians are “European Christians” with names, hopes and dreams.

Not like *those* people who are collateral damage. Burn the village to save it, blah blah.

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Beijinger 6 hours ago | parent [-]

"The whole thing is a cluster. A ton of Ukrainian people are ethnically Russian, particularly in the east."

Yep. Ukraine is not a Nation state, like Germany, or Finnland, or Sweden. Like Belgium, is is deep divided. The division was reflected in each election. Literally, the east voted for one candidate, the west for the other.

I slept in a Hostel during the war in Kyiv. There ware Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians. We hung out and had drinks, no problem. And during the night Putin and Klitschko made a pissing contest in the sky...

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999900000999 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It appears you’ve been downvoted and flagged.

You see, to the Westerner things must be black and white.

Russia is evil and the West good, despite the last Iraq war having something like 10x as many innocent casualties as the Ukraine war.

Something must be different between Iraqis and Ukrainians to make the latter so much more worthy of concern.

Guess we’ll never know.

	▲	Sabinus 23 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I don't think that's a fair assessment of Western perspectives. If the USA was 6 years into a very messy conquest of Mexico because Mexico wanted to join a trade bloc with China, the West would be very disapproving of American actions. Similarly the Iraq war is unpopular to Western citizens. Even at the time the British weren't very into it, and the Germans and French outright refused to participate.

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vardump 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

True before the war. Putin did manage to make Ukraine united.

The clear majority of Russian speaking Ukrainians support Zelenskyy now.