If I want a philosophy degree then it's my God-given right to pay $240,000 plus interest for it. Maybe it shouldn't be subsidized, though.

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IsTom 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is this like, a real sum of money americans pay for a degree? Overhead must be mind-boggiling if like just two students are needed to pay educator's salary for the period.

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pinkmuffinere 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That is very much a real sum of money people pay. The UC system is (I believe) 30k per year tuition if you’re in state. Add rent and you’re probably looking at 45k per year. Out of state is higher. And many systems are more expensive as well

	▲	Coffeewine 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		45k/year is excellent! If you believe business insider, U of Chicago’ll run you 100k / year. https://www.businessinsider.com/most-expensive-colleges-tuit... Traditionally the story was that almost no one paid the sticker price, but still that’s an eye watering sum even discounted. I’m sure in the next few years we’ll have stories of people 500k in debt or more for their schooling.
	▲	linkregister 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The UC system is an outlier in both price and quality for public education in the United States. The California State system, which costs $7-9 thousand per year, is far more representative.

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andai 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, the way things are going, maybe it should be way more subsidized...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48818544

https://archive.ph/94e7p

	▲	imtringued 30 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I personally think it is a perversion of the idea of philosophy to think that you can buy a better philosophy education by paying a higher tuition.

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chihuahua 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Right. And also, when you have paid $240k for that degree, don't write endless screeds complaining that the degree was a "scam" and that it's someone else's fault that you're not earning much with that degree.

Even in the 00s and 10s, there used to be people complaining bitterly that they have a lot of student loans after getting a degree in puppetry (seriously.) And the same people would have lit themselves on fire in a public square if they had been denied student loans for getting a puppetry degree.

I feel that you can't have it both ways: guaranteed student loans for any degree, no matter how impractical, and also complaining that some degrees funded with student loans don't lead to a lucrative career. Choose one or the other.