Now, where are the people afraid of the Chinese AI companies, who claim they are going to copy their very precious code...?

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5701652400 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

using them in VSCode all the time for months now. Qwen from Alibaba Cloud, Deepseek from deepseek.com. none of them upload entirety of codebase or even attempt to.

in fact, opposite. Chinese AI seem to post-process heaviliy locally.

they are always using head / tail, grep, sed, and do as much as they can locally and extrac meaningful data and send home (AI inference chunks). only what is really needed.

it is actually hard to force Chinese AI modesl to read full files, they really do not want to see them. even 400 lines files, is usally hit first for first line, first 50 lines. and at most 200 lines chunk reads, and give up at one or two reads.

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tredre3 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> none of them upload entirety of codebase or even attempt to.

How do you know? Did you do an analysis like OP did?

	▲	5701652400 44 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		no analysis. only based what I see in VSCode tool calls.

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rescbr 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

For me, them allowing API usage on coding plans so we can use any harness, and returning the full unabridged reasoning back are how they earned my trust.

	▲	5701652400 43 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		same here. API access + low price is why I am using Chinese models

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sroerick 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The second I opened Deepseek, it had my harness scan my entire home dir. Not sure what's worse here.

	▲	rescbr 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Weird. I have seen it asking the harness to do `find ~ -type f \| grep` to try and find my agent configuration .json file when I asked it to add a MCP server. Stupid, but they weren't sending the files back home. This was with older models though. Newer ones are a bit smarter than that.