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hoppp 2 hours ago

Agents manage agents.

The middle management in companies is one of the worst inventions ever. I think baboons have better middle management structure than us.

Might as well replace all that.

Tenemo 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Serious question then: if you were the CEO/CTO and were employing 10,000 engineers, what would you do without middle management? Would you have 1k+ line managers each managing <10 ICs and then... yourself? How would you coordinate work, hire, or do anything, really?

I'm not saying corporations execute on this flawlessly, just any time when I wonder what I would've done myself, I end up with a similar structure (maybe a bit flatter)...

RobRivera 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are their any handicap for measuring Baboon middle management capabilities and capacities to account for the unique challenges of interpersonal challenges Baboons face with each other vice homo sapiens? I imagine smiling and showing ones teeth can have unintended hurdles if not accounted for.

hoppp 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What showing teeth does depends on their body language. I don't know

"The famous primatologist Robert Sapolsky has spent decades studying baboons and has described how status, alliances, conflict resolution, and coalition-building resemble politics inside human organizations"

Baboons are a good example for studying mammal social management strategies, which humans also do.

They are organized by dominance hierrarchy, like humans, but baboons have a distributed leadership.

I think we could learn a lot from baboons when it comes to management

RobRivera 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Eager to see the Harvard Business Review publication!

embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Might as well replace all that.

You know, as an IC, if I get get the level of introspection you can get from building distributed systems, and that with reasoning/thinking traces from LLMs, I think I'd prefer the entire level of middle management made out of LLMs rather than humans. It'd be helpful to be able to see exactly where their logic suddenly took a skip out the window.

throw1234567891 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

At least those LLMs write code. Those middle managers are just there to turn the screw, most often have no clue what effort it is to write code, and what effort is it to run the thing. Just holding a fucking whip and reporting kpi’s.