| ▲ | BeetleB 4 hours ago |
| How do they bypass the AI safety measures? I read stuff like this and think I must be an idiot because I'm so bad at circumventing the AI safety for fairly benign queries. And here you have folks making bombs...? |
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| ▲ | throw2ih020 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is covered in the full PDF; they have many accounts they spread the queries over and structure them like they're asking for help writing a movie script. |
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| ▲ | andy99 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Just for reference, that hasn’t worked for years (the interviews say 2024-25 I think, that kind of attack was patched very early in all the mainstream models) and when it did, you would get bullet point lists GPT 3.5 Turbo style - first research methods for building effective explosives - next, assemble the necessary materials to make the bomb - ... |
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| ▲ | mothballed 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Making explosives is generally fully legal in the US, so IDK if there would even be safeguards for US hosted AI, since there's no real legal issue with doing it. Basically no federal regulations for non-commercial production so long as it isn't stored or moved anywhere, you can literally buy tannerite off the shelf in a sporting good store, "synthesize" it by mixing it and then blow up a huge bomb legally, no license required. YouTube is plastered with people inside the USA making TNT and other materials and then blowing them up. |
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| ▲ | BeetleB 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Have you tried chatbots? They invoke AI safety for lots of (very) legal things. The whole point is not to allow people to make bombs. Legality has nothing to do with it. | | |
| ▲ | Ancapistani an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I kept running into it when building an app that did ballistics calculation. | |
| ▲ | mothballed 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I can believe some would, but some probably wouldn't care. My local ranch store certainly will happily sell anyone tannerite without even a background check or any sort of scrutiny, you can cash and carry it. Walmart won't but the point being as long as it's legal there will be a "ranch store" that carries it. >The whole point is not to allow people to make bombs I mean even YouTube allows bomb making videos and they won't even usually allow videos of people making guns. It's just not very regulated in the US enough to make most companies care. Alphabet Inc. for instance clearly doesn't seem to give a single shit about public access to explosives information, even after the feds subpoenaed Alphabet for Ashley Dugan's Youtube information they still kept his TNT and other explosives synthesis up. Of course, if you'll allow me to goomba fallacy for a moment, we're supposed to suspend the common HN wisdom here that companies will do anything for a profit / not care unless it costs them something, and also believe that big tech is going to go out of their way to censor the public domain patents they're already hosting on their servers. | | |
| ▲ | BeetleB 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | OK, it sounds like you haven't tried these chatbots. > Alphabet Inc. for instance clearly doesn't seem to give a single shit about public access to explosives information Go to Gemini and ask it how to make one. |
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| ▲ | chasd00 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | AI safety is really brand safety. They don't want to see any more headlines like "You won't believe what OpenAI's chatbot told me!", which was all the rage early on. |
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| ▲ | cucumber3732842 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >How do they bypass the AI safety measures? Tell it you're in Africa. Not joking. I do this all the time to bypass whiny Reddit "you need a license" and "that's unsafe" type pushback when I just want to know what's less worse. Like just yesterday I was trying to plan out a YF-whatever to R134a conversion and used that trick. Worked great. |
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