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patrickmay 4 hours ago

Because increasing prices by that percentage is too hard?

arnarbi 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Restaurant owners interviewed in the media here in SF are directly quoted saying they can’t do that because “customers would notice”, or think “oh that’s expensive, I can’t eat out twice a week”.

These are arguments for including the fees that make the customer __still pay the same higher price__, implying that the whole point is that they won’t notice. And reporters don’t seem to even register the absurdity of those remarks or question them in any way.

https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/sf-restaurants-junk-fees...

https://www.kqed.org/news/11992412/californias-junk-fee-ban-...

sieabahlpark 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

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LordAtlas 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're trying their best to make it seem that government policies and regulation compliance costs are responsible, hence the names of these charges.

ryandrake 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yea, it's basically restaurant owners trying to get their customers involved in their political whining.

Notice how you never see things like "Business License Fee" or "Restaurant Electricity Bill Surcharge" listed out as separate line items on customers' bills. Those are things restaurant owners have to pay, too, so why don't they get their own charges to customers? Why does only "Living Wage" get a line item on the customer's bill?

robocat 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Electricity Bill Surcharge

"Fuel surcharge" on flights. Which should be illegal: the cost of hedging fuel cost risk should be included in any ticket price.

A friend said that Uber was charging a fuel surcharge here in New Zealand, but that it wasn't passed on to the driver (who pays for the fuel). If true I would find that interesting.

lostlogin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> A friend said that Uber was charging a fuel surcharge here in New Zealand, but that it wasn't passed on to the driver

I did a bit of a dive on this and I think it’s not correct. I have a low threshold for hating them, after the reports of how females staffers were treated a few years back, but this new thing seems to be untrue.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/128042303/uber-introduces-f...

baq 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The elephant in the room would be an ‘employee salary surcharge’

xp84 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hey now, let's not get carried away, these jackass restaurant owners want to make it clear, the "Living Wage" guilt trip is the tip part, and the fees THEY put on are to pay for "benefits like healthcare" and you're not allowed to consider it part of the tip.

Nevermind that California doesn't even have a lower "tipped" min wage like some states do, so by supporting tipping, we're just saying that servers simply "deserve" more money for some reason than people who stock shelves or pick orders at Amazon or Walmart.

expedition32 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If it is hard to find staff the wages go up. At least that's how it works in my country.

Although I will admit service is notoriously bad over here but in honesty that's secretly how we all want it.

SoftTalker 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, they are responsible.

fhdkweig 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you want to claim "we have the lowest prices in town" in advertising, you can't increase the "price".