Or we start writing code without LLMs.

danielbln 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No one is stopping you. It's only if you want someone to pay you for hand writing code that you might feel a certain competitive pressure that makes it economically difficult, let's say.

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hoppp 2 hours ago | parent [-]

One reason to write by hand is to have intellectual property, since it was ruled that AI generated code is in the public domain by default, so licensing is hard.

Another thing is competitive edge, if you use claude and your competitors use claude then nothing really gives you an edge. AI is a commodity, not competitive edge.

The competitive pressure should drive human work because it's unique.

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danielbln 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The competitive edge lies with the higher attraction layer, not the nitty gritty implementation detail (any more). Is that still software programming? The human work lies in the what and why and in broad strokes how

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hoppp 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That's not always the case imho. Think about advances in running inference, any innovation will happen in the details. Higher layer can stack gpu's but the implementation can still be improved.

Often small technical changes like "making a service 5% faster" are worth millions for large companies. That's all implementation.

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danielbln 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't see why a strong model wouldn't significantly outperform any human in this sort of low level optimization work. We don't hand optimize assembly either.

	▲	hoppp 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's about the competitive edge. If a public model can do it, everyone has access to it so nobody has advantage. If you want LLMs to be your advantage you can train your own, that's completely valid. Let's say you want to have a company that runs inference 5% faster, if everyone can do it your business model is worthless.

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el_io 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cat is out of the bag. Other than recreational programming I doubt many will write code without any form of LLM.

	▲	recursive 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There are plenty of us. I have slowed down because I'm reviewing more PRs. That might sound like productivity but the LLM ones take more rounds of feedback.
	▲	hoppp 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		If everyone is using LLMs then nobody has advantage In that case, humans with superior skills who can write code become the advantage. That is important for companies that compete with each other.

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globular-toast 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We're addicted to LLMs.