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Hnrobert42 4 hours ago

But do they really? Can you point a real, evil villain saying that?

skinfaxi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

See everyone who decries student loan forgiveness as an example.

thesmtsolver2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

But that is not the topic being discussed. Is it?

mothballed 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Government subsidized sudent loan forgiveness is a regressive tax, though, which makes it quite unpopular in the non educated that on average earn less.

ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The root cause is still cultural. Nobody wants to pay taxes that are helping someone else. Whether that "other" is in a different economic class, different race, different gender, has different political beliefs, lives in a different state, it's always the same mentality: "I don't want my tax dollars to pay for people I have determined to be 'others' and culturally different from me." Heaven forbid someone who doesn't deserve it or doesn't need it, get help.

spicymaki 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think we are all villains here. Good healthcare coverage is just another status symbol to be attained. If the poor have it then it becomes less of a value. To some degree we are all wired this way and we all suffer because of it.

skinfaxi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not sure I agree. Poor health is not always obvious and your health insurance provider is not conspicuous in most interactions.

schmookeeg 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have had VASTLY better free health coverage (OHP, Portland OR via Providence) than the current Kaiser dreck I and employer pay significant sums for.

Healthcare is not a flex, and it my experiences on the west coast, it's an inverse correlation to wealth. :/

gruez 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>I think we are all villains here. Good healthcare coverage is just another status symbol to be attained.

Seriously? How many conversations have you been in where people were bragging about how good their health coverage is and trying to one-up each other? The extent I've experienced is stuff along the lines of "thank god I had my health plan, because otherwise it would have cost [6 figures]", but it didn't give the impression that they'd be mad if everyone didn't have to suffer that fate.

thesmtsolver2 an hour ago | parent [-]

> How many conversations have you been in where people were bragging about how good their health coverage is and trying to one-up each other

Do imaginary conversations in the shower count?