| ▲ | 10xDev 2 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Seeing the dramatic differences in scores just going from high to xhigh is just another demonstration of the bitter lesson: Just keep scaling search and learning. We are probably going to need a lot more GPUs. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bevekspldnw an hour ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
These aren’t raw base models they are the result of a ton of RLHF and various adjustments. Bitter lesson wildly overstated in this context. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | altcognito 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
While I think this is true, remember as we get more efficient we just decide to scale even bigger. So more GPUs, and more efficient. I agree with the sibling comment, effiency is probably the more important component at this point. We are hitting not just a practical engineering roadblock for scaling with current technology, I think we have definitely hit a financial and logistical roadblock for up scaling with the number of GPUs (on an immediate basis) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Salgat an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kind of refreshing though that the "throw more processing at it" scaling we saw in the 90s has returned in a different way. For a while we were really bottlenecked in our advances by relatively low levels of parallelism (most software used by your average user doesn't scale cleanly with more than a few threads). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | vatsachak 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I mean, theoretically you can solve every finitary problem with a brute force solution... Richard Sutton specifically states that the search has to be smart. We know that the brain uses recurrent connections and is shallow. I think a lot more money has to go into architecture. Feed Forward transformers can only scale so far | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | emp17344 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This isn’t really how it works anymore. Agents rely heavily on tool use and the agentic harness to perform tasks. Pre-training is no longer very effective. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Razengan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> We are probably going to need a lot more GPUs. Or a breakthrough in algorithms etc. The human brain, heck all bio brains, are proof that you don't need a lot of power or size for intelligence. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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