I love weird web stuff! These forms are really fun. I do think both have their place. Sometimes I just want it to get out of the way without too much cognitive overload, and looking visually boring and predictable can be a good thing here. But I can imagine it being great for more community/event/creator-type stuff.

I agree. I'm not anti-clean design, it has its place. Is just miss there being more range, especially when it comes to personal projects.