> At least in China a lot of software developers are now struggling.

Do you think that Chinese software industry is that relevant to the kind of software market talked about on HN? I.e. lots of enterprise b2b and infra companies.

Chinese companies have always had a very low willingness to pay for software which kinda breaks the flywheel of B2B SaaS companies and companies to service those companies all the way down.

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Lomlioto 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Its a signal. They were earning well and AI crashed the market in China.

	▲	disgruntledphd2 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		China is in a very different economic state to the West (broadly construed). They have had real issues with deflation rather than the inflation most Western countries have seen over the past five years.

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re-thc 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Chinese companies have always had a very low willingness to pay for software

Are we still left with this mindset? Maybe once upon a time but it has definitely been changing.

There's plenty of B2B and enterprise SaaS companies in China serving the Chinese market. Maybe not as many, but no longer the very low of the past.

I also would not say enterprise were not willing to pay, even many years ago. It's the SME that refused to pay. Large CRM, ERPs etc have always existed.