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wartywhoa23 4 hours ago

My point is that war is the worst thing that humans can engage in, and that the prevailing sentiment is that constant war is an immutable status-quo, and hence it's okay, there's nothing we can do except downvoting those fucking negativists.

eth0up 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think the folks disagreeing with you maybe haven't spent much time in war. Almost certainly some in harsh skirmishes, but I reckon a few Nam, Korea and WWII vets would at least entertain your position on the subject. Pretty much every meta variation of terror has surfaced or has the potential to surface in war. Parts of Ukraine, I think, easily represent hell on Earth, for both sides.

Edit: I will go a bit further..

I consider Military the greatest power on Earth. It's sacred, necessary. But those who abuse its power commit, in my view, the greatest of sins. I don't mean the soldiers who fight, but those making the decisions of who they fight. The soldiers do their job, often willingly. And they are the ones who face the consequences. To betray them by corruption is the ultimate betrayal. War is a power that, I think, should be reserved for situations with no other option. Mercenaries not considered.

abtinf 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

War is not nearly the worst thing. Not even in the top 10.

wartywhoa23 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh, really? I'd like to see your top 10.

abtinf 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Things that are worse than war, a wildly incomplete list, in no particular order:

Pogroms; slavery; totalitarian dictatorship; theocracy; intentional mass starvation; mass organ harvesting; mass forced relocation; anarchy; failing to respond to unprovoked violence; restricting freedom instead of defeating the adversary.

malcolmgreaves an hour ago | parent [-]

What do you think happens in war? Clean fighting from side to side?

You really think the massive amounts of death and destruction aren’t top ten? What do you think happens to the local population when an invading force arrives? You should go and read about the rape of Nanking. And just read about what happened in wars before the modern era.

amanaplanacanal 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

Are you suggesting that the country being invaded should roll over instead of fight? Or is it ok with you for them to prosecute a war?