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vrganj 6 hours ago

Brought to you - as always - by the Conservatives. Conservatism is just fascism with a slightly nicer image.

weberer 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This was overwhelmingly approved by "The Left in the European Parliament" (that's their actual coalition name) as well as the Greens. It was overwhelmingly rejected by the European People's Party (AKA "The Right"). And mixed among other groups (S&D and Conservatives).

https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/195775

mizaru 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, it's the other way around. Quoting another comment:

>"Yes" means stop control, because it's a "proposition de rejet" we're looking at. rejet = reject

vrganj 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Indeed. The vote, however, was about stopping Chat Control. The key term is "derogation" in the title.

A "yes" vote was a vote against Chat Control. It failed because it needed an absolute majority of 361/) votes to defeat the "urgent procedure" lawfare by Metsina, a conservative.

marginalia_nu 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eh, the commies are pretty good at this too. Best analogy for Chat Control is really a digital Stasi.

vrganj 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean sure, but there's no meaningful commie contingent in the EU.

The war on privacy at the EU level always comes from conservatives.

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u8080 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

EU conservatives are just moderate leftists, who cares.

vrganj 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What are you even saying? As a leftist, I want nothing to do with those fascists.

u8080 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Okay, I am not EU citizen, let's see EPP's manifesto:

As a central part of its campaign for the European elections in 2009, the EPP approved its election manifesto at its Congress in Warsaw in April that year. The manifesto called for:[16]

- Creation of new jobs, continuing reforms and investment in education, lifelong learning, and employment to create opportunities for everyone (govt universal social investment, left)

- Avoidance of protectionism, and coordination of fiscal and monetary policies (pro-federal pro-centralisation)

- Increased transparency and surveillance in financial markets(more regulation on market)

- Making Europe the market leader in green technology. (increase govt involvement in economy)

- Increasing the share of renewable energy to at least 20 percent of the energy mix by 2020. (increase govt involvement in economy)

- Family-friendly flexibility for working parents, better child care and housing, family-friendly fiscal policies, encouragement of parental leave. (Pro-Worker's rights, social security)

-A new strategy to attract skilled workers from the rest of the world to make Europe's economy more competitive, more dynamic and more knowledge-driven (Pro-migration)

Could you explain how that's considered right-wing?

vrganj 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> - Creation of new jobs, continuing reforms and investment in education, lifelong learning, and employment to create opportunities for everyone

- Avoidance of protectionism, and coordination of fiscal and monetary policies

- - Making Europe the market leader in green technology.

Market ideology -> Right wing

- Increasing the share of renewable energy to at least 20 percent of the energy mix by 2020.

Done through incentives, not nationalized industry -> market ideology, right wing.

- Family-friendly flexibility for working parents, better child care and housing, family-friendly fiscal policies, encouragement of parental leave

Classic birtherism -> right wing

- A new strategy to attract skilled workers from the rest of the world to make Europe's economy more competitive, more dynamic and more knowledge-driven

Importing cheap labor for European capitalists -> right wing

u8080 2 hours ago | parent [-]

>Market ideology -> Right wing >Done through incentives, not nationalized industry -> market ideology, right wing.

Yeah, compared to communists they are right, but even socialists does not push against market economy and if you consider socialists right-wing - we have a huge de-sync on definitions level I guess.