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nilirl 3 days ago

> I actually don't have any personal criticisms of Jarred

The whole post felt like a personal criticism of Jarred.

vincent-uden 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'd consider the opinions professional criticisms of Jarred. While focused on him individually I don't think they are very personal

hyperpape 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Personal and professional are not mutually exclusive.

If I criticize your code, that is a professional criticism.

If I criticize your code and say it reflects your consistent carelessness and stupidity, it is also personal.

If I say you fabricated something, then that is a personal criticism, it alleges an ethical violation. In a professional context, it's also a professional criticism (every profession has some ethical standards).

dwattttt 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> We probably tried to tell you to try enabling it and you didn't listen. We have good advice, damn it!

Not knowing whether you actually gave the advice you're blaming them for not taking isn't professional, it instead comes across as bitter.

whimsicalism 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i think they are extremely personal and actually very distinct from professional criticisms.

nicce 3 days ago | parent [-]

Can you criticize a project which is mainly contributed and managed by one person without criticizing the same person who does the decisions that cause criticisms?

whimsicalism 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, I think very easily and I have read examples of this. There are bits of this in the article, but the main thrust attempt to portray Jarred as a greedy asshole enamored with Thiel/VC thought is not about the project and quite clear reading the article. It’s entirely tactless and bitter imo

embedding-shape 3 days ago | parent [-]

> main thrust attempt to portray Jarred as a greedy asshole enamored with Thiel/VC thought

What made you get that takeaway from the article? I didn't get that feeling at all, mainly seems to be something like "Jarred does some good and some bad, personally I don't agree, still wish him well", but clearly some specific part in the article must have given you this impression, if so what part?

epestr 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The "some good" part reads like it exists as a buffer between other parts which don't sound objective, but rather defensive and personally angry. > Fun fact: people talk to each other. The intention here seems to indicate that Jared could've never known that could happen. It doesn't sound like professional feedback and more how you talk to someone during after a road rage incident.

And the fact that immediately after no "personal criticism" he proceeds to call his behavior "fantasy fever dream." Sometimes presentation matters as much as factuality.

The lack of sources and citation for a pretty one-sided claim doesn't help either.

whimsicalism 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> jumping head first into problems that he was not yet equipped to solve, leading to mediocre outcomes in terms of engineering

> having graduated from the Thiel Fellowship school of thought rather than university, he was essentially groomed from a young age into uncritically embracing the Silicon Valley mindset,

> this "beginner energy" started to hit differently for me. It's one thing to choose a poor work-life balance for oneself; a different thing entirely to demand it of others

> Poor communication, unrealistic expectations, low empathy, no experience

> gets to live out his productivity fantasy fever dream, he's probably already super wealthy. He has minor tech celebrity status.

Frankly, I have trouble seeing how a neutral reader doesn’t see this as a clear personal attack. That the article ends with “I actually don't have any personal criticisms of Jarred” is almost comical given the preceding paragraphs.

epestr 3 days ago | parent [-]

Even more comical when you realize he couldn't stop himself from immediately following "no personal criticisms of Jarred" with

> gets to live out his productivity fantasy fever dream, he's probably already super wealthy. He has minor tech celebrity status.

in the following paragraph.

bmacho 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What about:

> The Zig foundation had a continuing disagreement about how Bun was using Zig (their methods and the resulting code). Other projects that follow the advices of the Zig foundation more closely won't have the same problems Bun had.

Posting this could've been enough to save face.

I find the blogpost super petty, 8-10 untrue, unprovable, unrelated jabs against a person and colleague.

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morningsam 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And literally 3 sentences later he goes back to insulting him ("productivity fantasy fever dream"). Even if that is true, it's still an unwise post to publish in this form IMHO. If the goal was to defend Zig, that could've been done in a less personal manner.

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cinkhangin 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm about to comment exactly this.

ozgrakkurt 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think he messed that part up and it comes off as passive aggressive but he is probably scared of the “outrage” from the angels of the internet about how rude he was to Jarred

fukaiall 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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szmarczak 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Jarred was already writing slop well before he had access to LLMs.

I don't see anything business related in that statement.

What's this new level of gaslighting? "It was not because of me, but because of the business situation I was in". Wait... wasn't he in that "business situation" because of actions HE took?

draw_down 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

“Jarred was a stinky manager”. Is this professional criticism?

slekker 3 days ago | parent [-]

It's called anecdote from people with direct and personal experience with Jarred