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jorisw 2 hours ago

Sentiment for/against GitHub aside...

"Why X are doing Y" articles like these pretend that the premise of "X are doing Y" is true, conveniently skipping to the "Why" before proving that the premise is even accurate in any meaningful way.

This is why I never buy headlines that start out with "Why".

> developers are ditching

Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there

stymaar 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Proceeds to list but a handful of remotely meaningful repos against the hundreds of thousands on there

The trend is what's interesting here. Github has never been threatened by anyone, because their service was too good to bother for everyone but the most ideologically motivated.

Now their service has become so bad there's a github joke at work every time something is down or slower than it should.

Reputation is a very valuable thing, and Github has destroyed a stellar one in a few month, this is newsworthy.

jorisw 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Except the article doesn't prove any trend

embedding-shape 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Here you have (albeit small) proof of some sort of trend: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit...

Still, doesn't come close to popularity of GitHub itself today (https://trends.google.com/explore?q=codeberg%2Cforgejo%2Cgit...), but I think the trend of moving away from GitHub is clear both in data and sentiment, both qualitative and quantitative.

ablob 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The existence and growth of the codeberg project does, however.

oblio 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The existence of Telegram doesn't negate the fact that WhatsApp is the world's most popular instant messaging platform, and the others aren't even close.

And Telegram is a lot more developed and has a much larger percentage of the global instant messenger marketshare, compared to Github vs CodeBerg.

jorisw 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

And what level of 'growth' constitutes a trend that warrants "developers are ditching GitHub" without providing any numbers at all?

juanibiapina an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed. But if I comment on this, I'm promoting the article. What do I do?

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can just insert the word "some" as required.

jorisw 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed, but the headline wouldn't travel nearly as well, if at all.

> Why some Americans are switching to soy

Would be more accurate than

> Why Americans are switching to soy

But wouldn't garner nearly the same amount of clicks.

There is conscious exaggeration in omitting 'some' - a fluff-blog click-farm trope I don't enjoy seeing in the developer space.

karel-3d 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

howtogeek is low-effort content mill, it's just upvoted here because of the headline, there is 0 actual effort in the article

close04 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> a handful of remotely meaningful repos

If there's a trend to leave a platform it won't start with the most entrenched users (largest repos).

They acknowledge your concern in the article and their analysis does apply to those few who are leaving. But to be fair the title can be interpreted either way and the most reasonable read for anyone is "some of them are leaving". I'd find it clickbaity if they said "why developers are leaving en-masse" and then point out to the regular turnover. There's clearly a trend, what's not clear is if it gains momentum.

esperent an hour ago | parent [-]

> If there's a trend

That's the point being made. Is there a trend? How do we know?

There's always some repos moving between hosting providers for all kinds of reasons. The burden of proof is on the author here to show there's been an increase and they don't do that.

conartist6 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

The early adopters are leaving. These are the people that will blaze a trail that others follow.

esperent 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Which early adopters exactly? The most prominent example they gave is ghostty which has existed for just a couple of years, notwithstanding the fact that the owner published a spiel about how he's been using it for longer.

jorisw 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

You could say that any time two distant psychos roll their Teslas off a rocky cliff and then exclaim "Why Tesla drivers are dumping their cars".

And not provide any other meaningful data

conartist6 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

Rolling your car off a cliff isn't the same thing. This would be more like you want to drive your Tesla into the jungle so you build a road as you go.

The key problem is not losing the cars but losing the road builders who are now no longer building roads that lead to you, but rather roads that lead away

p-e-w an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve seen titles like “Why top scientists are leaving the United States” where the article itself talked about A SINGLE RESEARCHER relocating to France.

embedding-shape 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you're talking about the article featured on HN just day(s) ago, that was about a funding effort to get more researchers to move to France from the US, while they interviewed one specific individual. I think maybe you skipped the contents of that article (as it was in French) and instead just read the HN comments which misunderstood the article :)

illliillll 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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