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karlkloss 7 hours ago

That's also true for humans.

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fxtentacle 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Humans will typically learn after you have forced them to apologise for the same mistake for 20 times in a row.

AI won’t.

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vogelke 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I love this. Straight into my quotes file.

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AndrewThrowaway 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you gave some junior dev a large codebase and just told to "refactor it" you would get a terrible result.

If you gave junior dev exact tasks what to do where you will get better results.

Just like with LLM.

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al_borland 7 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s why junior devs generally aren’t give the responsibility of architecting a large scale refactor. Yet people seem to be trying to had these types of tasks over to LLMs.

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AndrewThrowaway 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Exactly. Is it LLMs fault or yours to believing in it so much.

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al_borland 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is the fault of the salesmen and evangelists.

I’ve been hearing for quite some time now that I should be using an LLM to plan before the build. This is treating the LLM as the architect, not as a junior being handed small tasks here and there.

I haven’t bought into it, so don’t use it this way, but an army of people online and in the media are pushing the fomo hard and telling people this is how it should be used. If the LLM isn’t doing what we want, it simply means we need to use the LLM even more. That’s the prevailing message from the industry.

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LtWorf 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Coding is solved"

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AndrewThrowaway 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Coding, programming and engineering are all a bit different concepts. Coding as in typing in the code might be solved. Engineering? Doubt.

What is definitely not solved is knowing what you want and what user wants and what the end result is supposed to be. To write the code you need the specs and to write the specs you need to know what you want. And that can only be answered by years of therapy.

	▲	LtWorf 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You can't be mad at people for buying a product from the LLM salespeople and expect the product to comply to the specs they sold you. Be mad at the salespeople scamming customers.

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esseph 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48841676

	▲	al_borland 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		From the author: > It's not used in production. Sounds like it’s a tech demo as of now.

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dnikolovv 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Reductio ad absurdum.