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Drupon 10 hours ago

The majority of people with this mindset should not go to college and should just get a trade job or manufacturing job like they did 100 years ago. People were like this a few decades ago as well when I got my degree. I didn't have consistently great classmates until honors and accelerated grad courses in my 3rd and 4th year, along with various domain specific student orgs like groups for hardware hacking, computer security, etc.

Obviously this can't happen without some structural change (virtually impossible in the US due to its political ossification and indefinite deadlock) because a degree is now just a way of gatekeeping the middle class, but dull and incurious minds made ideal manual laborers in the past, and, at some point, we lost sight of that and started rotting our corporate world out with them.

rbanffy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The majority of people with this mindset should not go to college and should just get a trade job or manufacturing job like they did 100 years ago

As long as this allows them to provide for themselves and their families, buying homes, and retiring the same way as someone who goes to college.

Going to college should not be something people do to escape abject poverty, but something you want to do to enrich your life and make yourself a better person.

versteegen 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The majority of people with this mindset should not go to college

Seems obvious now that this is the solution. Unfortunately, universities would never agree to downsize, not due to politics or any US-specific problems.