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cowanon77 11 hours ago

I’m not sure why that’s controversial - I have met many Ivy League students and grads; they are all intelligent, at least in an academic way. The only other common characteristic is that they almost always had some form of privilege. Either rich parents, or adults around them who worked very hard to get them to that level.

lapcat 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I’m not sure why that’s controversial

Do you know what "by definition" means?

> I have met many Ivy League students and grads; they are all intelligent, at least in an academic way.

You probably wouldn't meet the dumb ones, because they're probaly not in your social class:

> rich parents

yamillove 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you have privilege, don’t be ashamed. USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!

It’s yours anyway. You don’t owe society anything just because you have privilege.

Everyone else, put on a helmet! Welcome to life.

phist_mcgee 10 hours ago | parent [-]

You owe society more than nothing, otherwise you end up with a sick society.

yamillove 9 hours ago | parent [-]

If you had read the whole sentence, you would have found a few other words, which say “just because you have privilege.”

All men are created equal. Civic duties apply equally to everyone. Once people have met their legal obligations (say, paying taxes and obeying the law), any additional generosity is voluntary, not owed, so having more privilege does not automatically create greater moral obligations.

Say, I am beautiful and you are ugly. That’s my privilege. Do I owe more than you? No. It sucks for you. Sorry but that’s life. Stop whining and keep making the best you have with your God-given privileges (maybe you are say, taller or have more money).

otikik 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

- And remember, Peter, with great power comes great responsibility

- No. It sucks for you. Sorry but that's life

(Uncle Ben dies sad)

phist_mcgee 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What an odd world view. Of course the priviliged have greater social obligations, because they are greater benefactors of life. We're all equal under the law but that doesn't mean that those with greater means shouldn't have greater impacts on society.

Meritocracy is often a buzzword of the elite to avoid paying their fair share.

yamillove 9 hours ago | parent [-]

They do have the opportunity to make greater impact. They just don’t owe you anything.

You are just either jealous or privilege shaming, or just want to perpetuate victimhood.

Either way, self-interest is the greatest force on earth. That’s why America is the Greatest Country on Earth, ever.

sevenseacat 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> That’s why America is the Greatest Country on Earth, ever.

hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahhaahah

rbanffy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> That’s why America is the Greatest Country on Earth, ever

You forgot the sarcasm tag.

yamillove an hour ago | parent [-]

Well, it’s the country that most people who leave their country risk their lives to move to. So at least most immigrants on earth agree with me.

Natfan 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

also the rich absolutely _do_ owe society at large something: taxes. a thing which, as you get richer, it apparently becomes optional due to financial engineering

yamillove an hour ago | parent [-]

There is a tax book. If you don’t take advantage of every possible option allowed by the thick book, then you are just dumb.

But if you are feeling more patriotic than you usually feel, may I remind you Uncle Sam accepts gifts at:

https://fiscal.treasury.gov/financing/gifts-to-government

Natfan 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

citation needed on that last claim. do you have universal healthcare free at point of service? do you have a healthy supply of public housing? do you let children starve, through no fault of their own but the circumstances of their birth? do you engage is ears of choice and murder 100+ innocent children in a primary school on the first day of the conflict?

the answer to some of these questions should be yes, and others should be no, if you're going to make the claim that the United States of America is the "Greatest Country on Earth, Ever".

yamillove an hour ago | parent [-]

The greatest country on earth ever is that which most people of the world, if given a free plane ticket and permission to live in, would go to.

I don’t know how you find it controversial. It’s just a fact.

phist_mcgee 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>America is the Greatest Country on Earth

Yeah ok mate. Have a good one.

yamillove an hour ago | parent [-]

Thanks. If you think some other country is, then tell us.

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