not justifying it but I imagine even pre-Flock there were false positives, I guess a question would be if the false positives are multiplying or if they would be better than the previous system of false positives

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gruez 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Sounds like the actual issue is that the false positive rate is so low that cops get complacent. If in the past all you had were vague descriptions like "grey F150" then police would be far more skeptical if they saw a "match". However if they're using ANPRs and it's reliable day after day, you stop questioning the system. After all, it never makes a mistake, right?

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AngryData 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Or they don't have to care about mistakes because most people are too poor to pursue a case against local cops and courts or flock. Any excuse to pull someone over will be used by police to extort people because thats how cops and courts fund themselves, they will always fall back on "it was procedure, therefore we hold no liability." There are more than enough victimless crimes on the books with high monetary penalties to just drag net citizens and profit.

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gruez 5 hours ago | parent [-]

>Any excuse to pull someone over will be used by police to extort people because thats how cops and courts fund themselves, they will always fall back on "it was procedure, therefore we hold no liability." There are more than enough victimless crimes on the books with high monetary penalties to just drag net citizens and profit.

That might make sense for speed traps or whatever, but how does brutalizing people with suspected stolen vehicles help "cops ... fund themselves"? Civil forfeiture doesn't even apply in this case because by definition that car has a rightful owner, so they won't even be able to keep it.

	▲	AngryData 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Well they get lots of fines and fees from court and jail when someone is charged. But even if the stolen plate isn't really stolen its an easy excuse to pull someone over and catch them for other crimes. It's why cops sit around fast clear roads and pulling everyone going 5 over but aren't giving speeding tickets. They are fishing for usually drug related crimes but also people on probation or behind on their license or tags, or technical DUIs if someone admits to taking a narcotic at lunch. They legally can't pull law biding citizens over randomly just to check, so they need and find excuses to do so and shitty ai flags are good enough.