I have a really hard time understanding how anyone is ready to pay $200/mo to be put on such a rollercoaster all the time.

I've used fable, it's great. But nothing beats predictability - ever.

This truly feels like some form of emotional abuse/manipulation at this point.

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micw 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Paying $100/month and using Opus 4.8 all the time to get my work done. I had a brief look at fable (when it was available the 1st time) but it burned my allowance to fast. So I keep paying the $100 for Opus and enjoy friction-less uninterrupted work.

I'm usually at 60-70% usage at the end of a 5 hour window, that's the pace where I can still think about what to delegate and what to expect and verify the results. Could probably go faster but that would have a significant impact on output quality.

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brookst 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I pay $200/mo because my opus usage alone is >$10k/mo at api rates. Do you think I’m making a mistake?

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Culonavirus 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I read posts like these all the time and I keep wondering when they'll begin to tighten the screws on the prosumers. I think most, if not all, $200/mo individual accounts are blasting high multiples of that amount in tokens. I mean we know that doesn't work with current inference costs, not by a longshot, so I guess this is just a way to pad their numbers like "look, we're growing our user base!" while they can still somewhat hide the "actually, we're hemorrhaging money on inference" in their accounting.

	▲	kuboble an hour ago \| parent [-]
		how do we know they aren't making 9800$ profit on inference from 10k$ tokens at api pricing?

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gck1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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DonsDiscountGas 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I pay that much and don't even use Fable because everything I do involves biology

	▲	Kim_Bruning 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I feel your pain. Apparently I still do a lot of biology in my day-to-day and in my thinking, so fable jumps the tracks a lot for me.

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winwang 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would pay $200/mo for Opus 4.8 already. Fable 5 is just a cherry on top (although, without it, Codex 5.5 is the better buy imo).

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cjbgkagh 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would pay vastly more, I think it’s incredible value. If I had no other choice I think I’d pay up to $1K per day. The amount of work I’m getting through is absolutely immense.

	▲	laichzeit0 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Same. I don’t know what Mickey Mouse work people are doing that 4.8 is “enough”. CRUD apps maybe? I have some serious Bayesian statistical research programs running and Fable is on another level than 4.8. It feels like Andrew Gelman is supervising it. Even the vision model on Fable is superior to 4.8 which is great for having it digest research papers.

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hosel 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh gee $2000 worth of tokens from the best available model for $200 wonder how people shell out that kind of cash

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dboreham 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I pay $200/mo and they provide me a tool that writes all the code I want. Seems like a great deal to me.