| ▲ | The Revenge of the Philosophy Majors(nytimes.com) | ||||||||||||||||
| 33 points by benbreen an hour ago | 23 comments | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jipl104 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
"the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into"... There's about 20 philosophers employed by AI labs worldwide, vs 1000s of software engineers, product managers, designers, etc. There's probably more economists working in these labs than philosophers... | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | em500 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
This article seems high on vibes, low on metrics. > While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for a good while.” But wait, there's this: > Beyond nonprofits like Eleos, most of the hiring has been concentrated at DeepMind and Anthropic, each of which employs at least a half-dozen philosophers. So, between 6 and 12 each? | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | keiferski 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I studied analytic philosophy, which is basically an education in how to clarify your thoughts, say what you mean in precise terms, and make clear arguments. IMO there is no better preparation for any sort of writing-and-thinking job than studying analytic philosophy, although of course I am biased. Not sure I’d recommend doing only a philosophy degree, but I highly recommend pairing it with something else more employable. CS and Philosophy seems like the best pairing for the direction tech is going. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | giantg2 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
"Beyond nonprofits like Eleos, most of the hiring has been concentrated at DeepMind and Anthropic, each of which employs at least a half-dozen philosophers." I would hardly call that the revenge of the philosophy majors. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | JauntTrooper a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
When I was in college, a philosophy degree was seen as excellent training for a career in Law. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | MSkill1 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I would much rather hear that they were hiring theoretical logicians than philosophers.We could use more people exploring the limits of prepositional and propositional logic and set theory than we need philosophy. AI is never going to become conscious, at least not the kind we have right now. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | seasox 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | seydor 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
They are also hiring cooks and cleaners, talk about their revenge | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | matltc 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I got a degree in philosophy. Couldn't be less interested in this kind of job. I hate philosophy now One of my biggest regrets is not getting into this stuff when I was in school. Didn't know about tech at all when I was going, just picked whatever was easy to major in and somewhat bearable. Had zero interest in school until later adulthood | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | cmiles8 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
When the AI bubble cools these roles will be eliminated faster than you can blink. Mark my words. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | andrewclunn 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> But Mr. Long’s trajectory and Google’s new hire were in keeping with a quietly building trend: A.I. labs, and the related nonprofits around them, have been recruiting workers as versed in Consequentialism and John Stuart Mill as in neural networks and reinforcement learning. While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for a good while.” Could it be? Did all that concern and daydreaming regarding how to safely wish for something from a malicious Jinn (and other such thought experiments) have a use? | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | beepbooptheory 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
It was really just the luck of the draw for me ending up in the undergrad program that I did, but every day I am grateful to have spent both my degrees and a decade mostly just teaching Kant or Descartes and reading Derrida, Marx, Lacan, Merleau-Ponty, Levinas, Deleuze, etc. Meaningful, sometimes beautiful, thought which maybe never made me feel "smarter" than other people, but undeniably taught me how to live and navigate the world. That is, instead of the Analytic hokum these nerds are selling to literal billionaires! Can you imagine the meetings these guys are having? | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | chunkyslink 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
How do I get past the paywall? (without paying) | |||||||||||||||||
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