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The Revenge of the Philosophy Majors(nytimes.com)
33 points by benbreen an hour ago | 23 comments
jipl104 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into"...

There's about 20 philosophers employed by AI labs worldwide, vs 1000s of software engineers, product managers, designers, etc. There's probably more economists working in these labs than philosophers...

deadbabe a minute ago | parent [-]

Starbucks employs orders of magnitude more philosophers than any AI labs.

em500 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This article seems high on vibes, low on metrics.

> While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for a good while.”

But wait, there's this:

> Beyond nonprofits like Eleos, most of the hiring has been concentrated at DeepMind and Anthropic, each of which employs at least a half-dozen philosophers.

So, between 6 and 12 each?

taeric 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Wow, it is hard not to immediately think of that meme. There are indeed dozens of them!

fellowniusmonk 2 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The revenge of the _nearly a dozen_ philosophers.

keiferski 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I studied analytic philosophy, which is basically an education in how to clarify your thoughts, say what you mean in precise terms, and make clear arguments. IMO there is no better preparation for any sort of writing-and-thinking job than studying analytic philosophy, although of course I am biased.

Not sure I’d recommend doing only a philosophy degree, but I highly recommend pairing it with something else more employable. CS and Philosophy seems like the best pairing for the direction tech is going.

seydor a few seconds ago | parent [-]

Dont you think that ANN research is upwards of philosophy in the ordo cognoscendi

giantg2 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Beyond nonprofits like Eleos, most of the hiring has been concentrated at DeepMind and Anthropic, each of which employs at least a half-dozen philosophers."

I would hardly call that the revenge of the philosophy majors.

JauntTrooper a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When I was in college, a philosophy degree was seen as excellent training for a career in Law.

MSkill1 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would much rather hear that they were hiring theoretical logicians than philosophers.We could use more people exploring the limits of prepositional and propositional logic and set theory than we need philosophy. AI is never going to become conscious, at least not the kind we have right now.

seasox 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://archive.ph/7A8cW

seydor 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They are also hiring cooks and cleaners, talk about their revenge

matltc 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I got a degree in philosophy. Couldn't be less interested in this kind of job. I hate philosophy now

One of my biggest regrets is not getting into this stuff when I was in school. Didn't know about tech at all when I was going, just picked whatever was easy to major in and somewhat bearable. Had zero interest in school until later adulthood

cmiles8 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When the AI bubble cools these roles will be eliminated faster than you can blink. Mark my words.

mykowebhn 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

Agreed. Similarly, we had in-house chefs who were full-time employees. They were some of the first people laid-off when the Covid downturn hit.

esafak 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

We had great chefs; miss them!

andrewclunn 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> But Mr. Long’s trajectory and Google’s new hire were in keeping with a quietly building trend: A.I. labs, and the related nonprofits around them, have been recruiting workers as versed in Consequentialism and John Stuart Mill as in neural networks and reinforcement learning. While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for a good while.”

Could it be? Did all that concern and daydreaming regarding how to safely wish for something from a malicious Jinn (and other such thought experiments) have a use?

etcimon 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It does have a use but not in the colloquial sense, history is plastered with bad winners yielding to their predatory instincts and a malicious Jinn is one of infinite ways you can visualize something that pulls/pushes into the abyss for a competitive comparative sense of superiority. Understanding it doesn't make it happen less because the phenomena exhibits in circles that mock thought itself. But taking it into consideration in thought does tend to improve the outcome of novelty the same way an engineer looks as Moore's Law as a warning not to seek positive thoughts for the sake of it but look at failure modes because they're central to good design

setopt 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It seems everything has a use if you wait long enough. Number theory also seemed famously unapplyable until modern digital cryptography came along, and same with non-Euclidean geometry before general relativity.

beepbooptheory 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It was really just the luck of the draw for me ending up in the undergrad program that I did, but every day I am grateful to have spent both my degrees and a decade mostly just teaching Kant or Descartes and reading Derrida, Marx, Lacan, Merleau-Ponty, Levinas, Deleuze, etc. Meaningful, sometimes beautiful, thought which maybe never made me feel "smarter" than other people, but undeniably taught me how to live and navigate the world.

That is, instead of the Analytic hokum these nerds are selling to literal billionaires! Can you imagine the meetings these guys are having?

chunkyslink 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

How do I get past the paywall? (without paying)

talloaktrees 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/05/business/philosophy-major...

hsuduebc2 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

https://archive.ph/7A8cW