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nottorp 3 hours ago

> Books that are simply bad books and in addition to being bad take an aggressive, political bent. (eg: the handmaid's tale)

Handmaid's Tale is actually a pretty decently written book for a dystopia. You just need to like dystopias.

SV_BubbleTime 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean… isn’t it a pretty hilarious take that the book was written about the subjection of women in Islam, and then popularized by a show where people who publically support Islam instead wanted to use it to attack their political enemies? IDK, I found that pretty funny.

nottorp 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you read the book instead of watching "influencers" you'd notice it's explicitly about a Christian theocracy, but whatever.

heisgone 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Atwood is on record saying the inspiration is Iran 79's Islamic revolution.

PaulDavisThe1st an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Atwood is on record as saying that everything that happens in The Handmaid's Tale has happened somewhere in the world within the 50-100 years that preceded her writing it. While Iran may have been an inspiration, it was not the inspiration, and she has many times spoken of things that have taken place in the USA and found their way into the book.

nottorp an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

She might be, but what she's actually written in the book is bible not koran references...

like_any_other 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, it's "about a Christian theocracy" in the sense of "what if a Christian theocracy behaved exactly like an Islamic one".

"Atwood was also inspired by the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1978–79 that saw a theocracy established that drastically reduced the rights of women and imposed a strict dress code on Iranian women, very much like that of Gilead." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale#Composit...

the_af an hour ago | parent [-]

Nope. A Christian theocracy of Puritan values.

From Atwood herself (https://lithub.com/margaret-atwood-on-how-she-came-to-write-...)

"The deep foundation of the United States—so went my thinking—was not the comparatively recent 18th-century Enlightenment structures of the Republic, with their talk of equality and their separation of Church and State, but the heavy-handed theocracy of 17th-century Puritan New England—with its marked bias against women—which would need only the opportunity of a period of social chaos to reassert itself."

like_any_other an hour ago | parent [-]

God forbid we notice any similarities not approved by the author. How silly of me to think it could be about anything other than the religion and cultures where gender equality is the highest.

the_af 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not about Islam. If that's what you thought, I suggest a second read, this time paying more attention?

zulux an hour ago | parent [-]

"Atwood herself has acknowledged that the Islamic Revolution in Iran, which took place in 1978-79, was a direct inspiration for her novel."

https://www.patreon.com/DarvishIntelligence/posts/handmaids-...

the_af an hour ago | parent [-]

https://lithub.com/margaret-atwood-on-how-she-came-to-write-...

From Atwood herself:

"The deep foundation of the United States—so went my thinking—was not the comparatively recent 18th-century Enlightenment structures of the Republic, with their talk of equality and their separation of Church and State, but the heavy-handed theocracy of 17th-century Puritan New England—with its marked bias against women—which would need only the opportunity of a period of social chaos to reassert itself.""

"Like the original theocracy, this one would select a few passages from the Bible to justify its actions, and it would lean heavily towards the Old Testament, not towards the New.

[...]

Surely the Gilead command would have moved to eliminate the Quakers, as their 17th-century Puritan forebears had done."

"I made a rule for myself: I would not include anything that human beings had not already done in some other place or time, or for which the technology did not already exist. I did not wish to be accused of dark, twisted inventions, or of misrepresenting the human potential for deplorable behavior. The group-activated hangings, the tearing apart of human beings, the clothing specific to castes and classes, the forced childbearing and the appropriation of the results, the children stolen by regimes and placed for upbringing with high-ranking officials, the forbidding of literacy, the denial of property rights—all had precedents, and many of these were to be found, not in other cultures and religions, but within Western society, and within the “Christian” tradition itself. (I enclose “Christian” in quotation marks, since I believe that much of the Church’s behavior and doctrine during its two-millennia-long existence as a social and political organization would have been abhorrent to the person after whom it is named.)"