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cdash 4 hours ago

This title is such clickbait. All the article talks about is a Dutch fund created to recruit scientists and they have successfully recruited them. At 1 million euros per head.

JSR_FDED 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They have the first 34 researchers, all from top universities and institutes. That’s a major achievement, because as the article says, every researcher brings new knowledge as well as a whole international network with them.

Cthulhu_ 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Exactly; the biggest company in the Netherlands and its products (ASML and high end lithography machines), is built on top of the works of only a handful of researchers. The US nuclear weapons and space programs were similarly built on top of researchers they got from Europe. This is very much NOT a numbers game, and I want to believe top researchers rate their work and the benefit of humanity higher than a country, especially if that country is backsliding.

petcat 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> the biggest company in the Netherlands and its products (ASML and high end lithography machines), is built on top of the works of only a handful of researchers.

This is... wildly wrong. ASML is a multi-national company that licenses IP largely from USA and Japan, but also Taiwan and Germany. The actual EUV light source is developed and produced in California by Cymer, which ASML acquired in 2013. But ASML was only permitted to acquire the company under a strict technology sharing and export control agreement with the US government. Additionally, a huge portion of the photolithography research is directly developed (and owned) by US companies and research organizations such as IBM, Albany NanoTech, and SEMATECH.

There is a reason why ASML's next-generation research photolithography machine is currently being installed and developed in upstate New York, and not somewhere in the Netherlands. The same reason that Cymer is still in San Diego instead of being relocated to Europe.

[0] https://www.eetimes.com/asml-to-build-400-million-us-researc...

[1] https://www.eetimes.com/asml-sematech-team-on-manufacturing-...

[2] https://research.ibm.com/blog/euv-center-albany-nstc

RandomLensman 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The laser and optics for the EUV light source are from the US?

chuckadams 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The laser is from the US, the optics are German (Zeiss)

RandomLensman an hour ago | parent [-]

Isn't TRUMPF a German company?

VWWHFSfQ 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> At 1 million euros per head.

Over 5 years...

BeetleB an hour ago | parent [-]

Which still a great salary and competitive with the US, in academia.

Forgeties79 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Seems accurate enough to me. That’s not a ton of money to uproot your life over tbh. Shows there’s willingness to leave with a little bit of incentive.

DrSiemer 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That money is for the research, not salary

flexagoon 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Dutch researcher salaries are also pretty high (compared both to median Dutch salaries and academic salaries around the world), so it's still not like you're leaving USA to live in poverty

Forgeties79 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yup I wasn’t confused about that.