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hbn 4 hours ago

Game Pass was never a sustainable business model. People liked it because when a new game came out, they could buy a month of game pass for like $15, play through the game in a couple weeks, and cancel. It was a really good deal because Microsoft has spent the past decade+ trying to recover from their terrible fumble of the Xbox One launch, so they were subsidizing gamers to come back to their platform.

With the money being spent on AAA titles these days, they are not going to make any money without increasing the price of Game Pass majorly. The big price bump they quickly backtracked on was an attempt to make Game Pass somewhere closer to being profitable.

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Dylan16807 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Traditionally if you're going to play through a game in a couple weeks and then not own it anymore, that means you sell it and someone else buys it for their own couple weeks, and the company should be happy if they make $15 per person in the chain.

Also this is part of why I'm really worried about how weak the concept of game ownership is getting.

See also how anyone buying GTA6 near launch will be unable to resell it.

hbn 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

The writing's been on the wall about physical games going away for quite some time now.

You can tell the PS5 was designed to be a digital-first system by the disc drive slapped on the side like a tumour hanging off the otherwise symmetrical body.

tracker1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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wholinator2 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What's woke about xbox?

ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yea, I'd love to hear specifics. OP is all over this thread vaguely insinuating about "political content" but notably hasn't yet pointed out any specific examples that are objectionable.

tracker1 an hour ago | parent [-]

At the risk of being downvoted into oblivion... Lets start with Spider-Man... MJ was a self-insert of a less attractive woman than typical for the character... there was a lesbian side quest that served no real value, while being excluded from international editions altogether. The pride flags through the city... That isn't even all of what went into that single game.

But sure, pretend it doesn't exist at all, and that there aren't lots of examples of game studios injecting game elements for political motivations.

I'm guessing that uou either aren't paying attention, lying or willfully ignorant if you can't see it.

ryandrake an hour ago | parent | next [-]

None of those examples are political. They might be things you don't like, which is fine, but that doesn't make them politics. What makes the attractiveness of a 3D game character "politics"? What makes a useless gay side quest politics, but a similar useless straight side quest not-politics?

tracker1 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

Injecting LGBTQ+, then excluding it for certain markets is absolutely political.

Dylan16807 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Having a realistic amount of LGBTQ people/interactions in a big story shouldn't qualify as "political". Removing it for certain markets is much more political, and they should not do that, but I get the impression that isn't the outcome you want.

Edit: Also the average level in the real world is a lot more than 1%. 1% is like just the trans portion.

pyth0 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Just so I understand your objection, they are woke because in the game one of their studios made, the woman in the game wasn't attractive enough for you?

tracker1 an hour ago | parent [-]

And you totally skip the "self-insert"... But I'm sure you'd cast Lizzo as Helen of Troy.

Dylan16807 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Who was the "self" being inserted here? That's a confusing term for a game made by so many people.

tracker1 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelmemes/comments/17h76ej/so_a_i...

Of course, it's not like you couldn't have done a google search yourself, if you really cared.

ryandrake 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

The top Reddit comment there pretty much sums this whole discussion up. I can't believe I dragged myself into this. It's just Gamergate again and again. I should have known.

jamiek88 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anyone else deeply deeply weary in their bones about people doing this?

I hate this timeline. We can’t even talk about fucking corporate margins without some chud shoehorning some of this shit in.

ToucanLoucan 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's by design. The outrage merchants post day in and out to signal allegiance to this bizarre cult.

People also don't respect how WILDLY influential GamerGate as been. There's good arguments to be made that Trump and his shitty White House would never have come to pass if not for moot re-enabling political discussions on 4chan at the behest of some combo of Epstein and Bannon, explicitly to stoke reactionary rage at anything "gay" in games.

Like don't get me wrong it's deeply stupid and perhaps respect is the wrong word, but it's crazy how much those old events are shaping current culture war nonsense.

vel0city an hour ago | parent [-]

I agree. A lot of people assume rational actors and don't understand "meme magic".

ToucanLoucan an hour ago | parent [-]

Even calling it memes is overly charitable. It's deliberate stoking of rage at scale to accomplish political ends.