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fsckboy 2 hours ago

it annoys me how eager people are to hurl the word stochastic as pejorative. Statistics are a great tool for gleaning information from stochastic processes; statistics don't contribute randomness. Random sampling is necessary in order not to bias a sample, it's not used to contribute randomness to the sample but to preserve/measure the underlying distribution. (not meant to imply that training is random sampling)

bigstrat2003 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's a pejorative only because determinism is what makes computers useful in the first place. You get a consistent result, every single time, unlike if you have a human in the loop. Because LLMs are stochastic, they have removed the thing that makes computers useful to us, thus it's a pejorative.

DangitBobby an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It turns out that determinism isn't what makes computers useful in the first place.

naasking an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

1. Determinism is a very small subset of what makes computers useful. Non-determinism like stochasticity is literally everywhere, like random seeds.

2. LLMs are detemrinistic. They have a parameter to tune how stochastic they are.