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bhupy 4 hours ago

You're right, it's a failure of governance that FIFA doesn't have a proper appeals process for everyone to use. It is unfortunate that the only rules-based mechanism to suspend the match ban had to come from FIFA, which in practice will be arbitrary.

It was the right outcome, but the wrong process.

rjrjrjrj 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> It is unfortunate that the only rules-based mechanism to suspend the match ban had to come from FIFA

With a little push from the President and Secretary of the Treasury.

bhupy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Correct.

Hence: “which in practice will be arbitrary.”

It’s on FIFA to correct for that governance failure by making it less arbitrary via a more universal appeals process.

In any case, the rules were followed to the correct decision. It’s just that these rules as written are arbitrarily applied.

rjrjrjrj 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It seems like there are contradictory rules, and FIFA is confused about which to apply.

5 days ago, FIFA said there was no appeal process. Yesterday, there was a magic reversal.

EPWN3D 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The US had no procedural route to get Balogun reinstated. That doesn't mean FIFA can't wave their magic wand to make it happen.

Had FIFA implemented an appeals panel for the tournament, it would've looked at the incident, deemed it a misapplication of VAR and a wrongful red card, and the world would've moved on. Instead because of their incompetence, the only remedy was via their magic wand, which is arbitrary and capricious.

bhupy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

No, those are not at all contradictory, it is entirely consistent.

Two things can be true at the same time:

1. There is no appeals process that USA (or any team) can initiate

2. There is a mechanism that FIFA can initiate to suspend a match ban at their discretion

That is why it's a bad system; as long as it's initiated by FIFA, it will always be arbitrary and capricious.