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rvz 7 hours ago

> They're subsidizing their tokens as long as you use their software. That's a fair exchange, I never understood why people took issue with it.

Except they themselves cannot afford it and as the article also mentioned, their level of service and uptime is atrocious for the price they are offering.

Their unpredictable pricing model is designed to make it easy for you to lose more money without you knowing. Unannounced model switching, nerfing old/new models, classifiers detecting 'unsafe' instructions to downgrade the selected model and overcharging API prices and locking subscriptions to a broken vibe-coded harness.

You don't get anything by defending Anthropic, given their past behavior.

harry19023 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, the subsidized loss leader product is evolving fast. If you want stable costs, the API plan is right there. You simultaneously say they cannot afford the API pricing but also claim they are overcharging, it sounds like you just want to get mad ad Anthropic.

rvz an hour ago | parent [-]

> If you want stable costs, the API plan is right there.

Why don't you ask Microsoft [0], Tesla [1] and Alibaba [2] on why they believe it is not only expensive, but it also a security risk for them?

Like I said, You don't get anything for defending Anthropic and they are not going to hire you into their sales team.

> You simultaneously say they cannot afford the API pricing but also claim they are overcharging, it sounds like you just want to get mad ad Anthropic.

Read it again. "Except they themselves cannot afford it"

They is "Anthropic" given that I said "themselves". Who are the ones that cannot afford to subsidize tokens forever due to the even cheaper Chinese alternatives. They all know that the answer is open weight models and why Anthropic cannot raise prices and why the above companies are ditching them for open weight models.

[0] https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-cancels-c...

[1] https://letsdatascience.com/news/tesla-limits-employee-ai-sp...

[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

aetherson 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Okay, if it's bad for the price they're offering, use the more expensive API. If they themselves can't afford it I don't know what you want here.