| ▲ | gnfargbl 4 hours ago | |||||||
You're looking at the status quo and ignoring the trajectory. The best current open models are about as good as closed models from ~1.5 generations ago. The rate of improvement of all models is converging to zero. It follows that in a few generations, open models inferencing will be about as good as closed model inferencing. The problem is going to become that there's no incentive for anyone to run the stupidly-expensive training phase. May God have mercy on the stock market. | ||||||||
| ▲ | zild3d an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
>The rate of improvement of all models is converging to zero. Curious where you draw this conclusion from? Most benchmarks still show continual steady progress https://metr.org/time-horizons/ | ||||||||
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| ▲ | NitpickLawyer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
> The rate of improvement of all models is converging to zero. That's so obviously not true that I don't even think it's worth the energy to even debate it. It's been said for years, yet here we are, constantly improving. People really don't get RL / the bitter lesson, do they? > It follows that in a few generations, open models inferencing will be about as good as closed model inferencing. Not a chance. There's hundreds of billions of dollars on one side, and oom less on the other. There's also scaling laws and information theory. No matter how good, a 30B model will not be able to be better than a 3T+ model, all things being equal. You are mistaking models becoming "good enough" for an increasingly number of tasks, which I agree is happening, with SotA models stagnating, hitting walls etc. That will not happen for many many years to come. | ||||||||