| ▲ | throw394042 5 hours ago |
| I'm working in large US corporation.
And I see that I already have access to 5.6-Sol Ultra on my corporate account. I haven't really used it yet. 2 months ago management was showing us scoreboards, praising leaders who used most tokens.
Last few weeks, we're getting weekly emails, telling us that whenever we can - we should use cheaper models, and that we should watch the page which shows our tokens usage. |
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| ▲ | noduerme an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| That's kinda hilarious. Pretty soon they might just ask people to write code themselves. |
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| ▲ | wjnc an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m in Finance and learned pretty quickly that point out the implicit future cost raises based on the cost the LLM-providers need to recoup was unpopular at best (STFU better describes the situation). Running full force into a bear trap. | | |
| ▲ | noduerme 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I've seen that mentality and gone to bat to convince a boardroom that it's the wrong approach, when people were star-struck by the possibilities. Luckily I'm in a position as CTO of a (very non-tech, brick and mortar) company that entrusts me to manage their budget for new features, and prevent erosion of our software/logistics over the long term. And I've come down decidedly on the side of not having LLMs fuck with any schema or architecture changes or anything in the codebase that would touch upon business logic. When your code actually encapsulates business logic, which is often counterintuitive and full of weird exceptions, 90% of the code work is done by prior planning to map out all possible branches and the algorithms to assist employee decision making. The 10% that's actually writing code needs to be done by someone who understands the entire stack and business model perfectly. Some nice HTML/CSS fluff here and there is great to hand off to an LLM, and you don't need frontier models for that. I shot down similar arguments in favor of outsourcing overseas for years. Outsourcing any critical logic to an LLM is even worse. | | |
| ▲ | bob1029 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > I shot down similar arguments in favor of outsourcing overseas for years. Outsourcing any critical logic to an LLM is even worse. Outsourcing to another continent of humans and supplementing workflows with LLMs are entirely different operational universes. I think it is fair to put them on the same spectrum, but they're really far apart. I'd argue outsourcing is a far more aggressive abdication of ownership of the technology than bringing an LLM agent in house and having it light a few fires under a few asses. |
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| ▲ | OtomotO 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The sad part is that you work in FINANCE of all things and this happens there. Like: What competence do decision makers in FINANCE have, when they are this oblivious to economics? | | |
| ▲ | noduerme 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | A better question would be how anyone who thinks about economic fundamentals could get a job in finance (or stay in it). |
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| ▲ | imhoguy an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | oh no! what about all these demos which product management vibe coded? | | |
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| ▲ | whstl 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The craziest to me was someone saying “we are using AI in daily processes, now we need to automate”. But of course to some asshole non-technical people it meant asking for their vibe coded bullshit to be merged into production without review and fighting about it. |
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| ▲ | tmountain 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The craziest for me is companies that sticking stochastic agents into automated business processes and expecting stable/reliable outcomes. Businesses want deterministic processes in the vast majority of cases. |
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| ▲ | dprkh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Are corporate employees not allowed to use personal subscriptions? |
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| ▲ | bulder 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sounds like a bad idea in general. Any data use agreements get lost, shadow-IT brews and nobody knows what tools to use, oh and it's against the service terms. | |
| ▲ | ffsm8 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Unless you get written permission you can be sued for publishing their trade secrets. This can end in jail time if your employer is particularly uncaring. Ymmv, do whatever you want . It's your life. | |
| ▲ | pkulak 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Generally not, since the corporate account has all the privacy knobs turned up. I use my personal account on my open source projects, where code leaks aren’t exactly an issue. | |
| ▲ | bberrry an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you want your company's code to be used in training, then yes. |
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| ▲ | Shorel 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm using local models in Ollama for most things and only use the paid corporate account when my local model gets stuck. |
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| ▲ | solumunus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > 2 months ago management was showing us scoreboards, praising leaders who used most tokens. Everyone is insane. |
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| ▲ | camillomiller 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It‘s a collective psychosis. There is not other explanation. | | |
| ▲ | y1n0 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The thing with language models is they are tailor made to fool managerial types into thinking it’s the holy grail. Just like many managers, the appearance of productivity is all that counts. And LLMs shine at giving the appearance of having solved all of the managers problems, and all they have to do to use it is spend on tokens. This isn’t to say that LLMs aren’t truly useful, they absolutely are. But they’re very nature is one of simulating intelligence through next word prediction. The chat modes and models are by their nature supremely attractive to management layers, because they give answers that sound so damn plausible even when they are complete fictions, and uttered with such confidence how could they be anything but the singularity. | |
| ▲ | elric an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Everyone is falling over themselves out of FOMO. | | |
| ▲ | whstl 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It’s 100% FOMO from investors, board members and C-levels disconnected from the daily work. |
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| ▲ | senectus1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| interesting, our enterprise account here in Australia doesn't have access to it yet. |
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| ▲ | VeninVidiaVicii 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I wonder if clues like this will be what are written in history books as the beginning of the bubble bursting. |
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| ▲ | make3 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't think that people relying on the tools too much is the first sign I would identify to mean the bubble is popping | | |
| ▲ | jvuygbbkuurx 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The market is priced at expecting AGI levels of breakthroughs. Just a very useful tool for programming is definitely not enough to keep the music playing. | | |
| ▲ | make3 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | the thing went from the transformer paper in 2017 to basically doing your job for you in 2026 |
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