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greggoB 6 hours ago

> one of them had a seizure

It's insane to me how much dogs are supposedly loved by such a large chunk of the pop, and yet people proceed to go apeshit with fireworks fully knowing how badly this affects them.

xeromal 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My guess because we just read of the seizure stories online but 95% of dogs are ok with it. Mine is. There's a limit to dealing with edge cases that most people have.

Not saying this is how I feel or act though.

nozzlegear 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We have three dogs of different breeds and ages, none of them handle fireworks well. They don't have seizures, but one of them turns into a quivering, shaking mess and the other two try to hide under couches and beds. I wish they were okay with it, but my wife and I have to plan our 4th around the dogs because of how they react.

erikerikson 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My dog, now passed after a long and happy life, loved fireworks deeply. It was his favorite day of the year. He would chase and pretend to bite, bark, and run around with joy.

To be fair, I am quite certain he was an outlier.

mikeocool 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think you’re probably right about people’s feelings on the matter.

Though in my experience dogs that are ok with fireworks are the edge case.

strken an hour ago | parent [-]

I've had two dogs. One didn't like fireworks but would just turn his head towards the noise then walk over to the nearest human, and the other completely ignored them.

However! The first was a Labrador cross and the second was full lab. Breeds intended for use as gun dogs might not react to gunpowder and explosions as much.

tessierashpool 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

no, 95% of dogs are not okay with it.

95% of the dogs in your home are okay with it.

this study from Psychology Today finds that 83% of dogs freak out when they hear loud noises:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/202202...

mminer237 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That study doesn't say "freak out". It says 83% ever showed "any fear" of fireworks, which is a huge variation. My doesn't like going outside when there are fireworks, but the sound of rain freaks him out way more.

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billfor 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Most dogs in my neighborhood are ok with them. My own dog loves them. I try to keep him inside only because I think it might be bad for his hearing if he gets too close. Beyond basic temperament I wonder if owner training is implicated, as more people become annoyed by fireworks they don’t expose the dog to them at a young age.

chrismorgan 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not just dogs; more than a few humans don’t cope with loud noises of various kinds.

billfor 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Good thing we didn’t have too many of those people during the revolution or we would still be part of Great Britain.

jltsiren 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I guess you had more of those people after the revolution.

Many combat veterans react to anything resembling gunfire and explosions. And you can add drone noise to that these days.

thebruce87m 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m not a dog owner but aren’t you supposed to play fireworks on your TV at increasing volume in the preceding days to get them used to it?

That seems a better option than expecting everyone else to change their behaviour because of a pet you chose.

AngryData 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Loud action movies seem to help a friend of mine's dog who otherwise acted like fireworks were the devil incarnate.

jjtheblunt 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've never heard that, like fireworks homeopathy or something? Where did you hear that?

thebruce87m 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Here is the first non-Reddit link from Google: https://www.royalkennelclub.com/health-and-dog-care/health-d...

> Getting your dog used to loud and sudden noises can make them more relaxed and less reactive when the fireworks outside get going. There’s a good range of CDs and playlists of fireworks, storms, and loud noises available, and playing these can really help your dog desensitise to the noise.

> Start by playing the sounds at a low volume, and as your dog gets used to it you can slowly increase the volume over a period of time so that they become used to the noise. This can work especially well with young dogs and puppies, and can let you nip any problems in the bud before they even arise.

9dev an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All other animals too. There are tons studies about the effects of New Year’s Eve fireworks on birds, for example, that are devastating.

Most people just don’t care about anything but themselves. It’s disgusting me to no end.

aaron695 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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colechristensen 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The degradation of canine genetics and behavior to the point where loud noises cause seizures is pretty absurd. I love dogs but I grew up around working dogs. City people have pushed dog breeding to the point where the desirable dog is riddled with some pretty extreme codependency and anxiety that they mistake for affection and companionship. The poor animals spending their lives in a few hundred square feet and completely alone for a large majority of their lives kinda sickens me.

quantum_magpie 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Jeez, just imagine a ballistic missile hitting your neighbour's house, with no indication or alert coming ahead. I would bet a good 50€ that you'd be freaking the shit out.

petre 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree, but luckily my terrier apparently doesn't give a poo about fireworks. Probably nobody jad thrown fireworks at him yet. My inlaws' country dog (also a fox terrier mix with the same temperament) growls at people, especially teens, smelling of powder and barks at fireworks and motorbikes. Good thing he's not a Malinois to nip those teens and chase the motorbikes. So it'a more of a nature vs. nurture thing.

colechristensen 3 hours ago | parent [-]

dog behavior is strictly a reflection of their owner

borski 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Given that most dogs are adopted from shelters, dog behavior is often a reflection of early upbringing. The current owner can train and teach their dog, but some behaviors and fears set in fairly early on.

Moreover, many dogs are beaten or worse when they’re young, and undoing that fear and trauma is a lifelong (for the dog) struggle.

Thus, dog behavior is far from “strictly a reflection of their [current] owner.”

anon7725 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nearly all animals are afraid of fireworks:

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-devastating-effects-o...

Fireworks are a traumatic and disruptive intrusion on their environment akin to a temporary war. We (humans) already do enough traumatic and disruptive intrusions on the lives of wild animals, that doing this wholly unnecessary “just for funsies” thing is particularly cruel.

It’s rich how you’ve decided to call out “city people” as being responsible for the situation rather than the trash individuals who set off illegal fireworks.

chneu 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Like 80% of dog owners treat dogs like possessions. When I say "like possessions" I mean they abuse them by physical means or by locking them into small apartments and not meeting the animals basic needs. It's wild how people trap dogs into small city/suburb boxes and then 'train' them to be good(break them). I stand by 80% if you account for global numbers and not just western/developed nations.

In much of the developed world it's weirdly mandatory to have a dog or cat. The way folks treat them is so messed up. Then these folks turn around and claim they love animals. It's nonsense. Most people don't need a pet nor do they treat them like an animal lover would.

But words have no meaning nowadays. Everyone is everything they want to be.