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maxdo 7 hours ago

Canada and domestic product simply not possible The only two countries who can run domestic products of this kind are USA and China . The rest is just gimmick or a lie.

bigyabai 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Palantir's software stack is not really that complex, and their FDE workforce is famously... undereducated. Canada should be able to pull it off, there's much to improve on.

nradov 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If that's true then why hasn't Canada managed to produce a credible competitor already? What are they missing? Will the opportunity to win domestic government contracts change that situation or are there other obstacles?

maximilianburke 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because govtech is notoriously difficult to break in to.

nradov 3 hours ago | parent [-]

How did Palantir break in? What's preventing a Canadian competitor from doing the same?

bigyabai 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> How did Palantir break in?

Peter Thiel abusing government backchannels.

> What's preventing a Canadian competitor from doing the same?

A lack of access to corrupt government backchannels.

bluefirebrand 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lack of investment probably. No one is investing in Canadian companies. A stupid amount of Canadian investment is in America or overseas, very little is domestic

gloryjulio 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Canada do have an ai company Cohere that has potential to be big. Personally I do think they are one of the credible competitors.

maxdo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

are you seriously believe in that? when was last time they produced a model, that is at least in top 20?

mitthrowaway2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Remind me which of Palantir's models would it be competing with?

dreambuffer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You know Palantir is not an LLM company, right? Their core product is just data integration systems.

gloryjulio 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think they are in b2b enterprise model space. Privacy is way more important. Not sure if Sota models are needed.

maxdo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

we are talking about LLM+hardware.

You as canada have only two options:

1) use closed sourced systems

2) use chinese models, with their own risks

3) hardware, i think it's clear.

Cohere is not even in the list of top competitors .

ihsw 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You overestimate the willingness of Canadian software engineer employers to pay anything beyond peanuts.

Any competent developer already immediately flees to the US to triple their take-home pay at first chance and Canadian employers are fully aware of this.

mitthrowaway2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I know lots of competent developers in Canada. Some better than any I have yet met in the Bay area. They know they could triple their income by moving to the US, but they have other attachments, priorities, and concerns.

Lots do move to the US too, but it's a filter for ambition, not competence. Don't confuse the two.

tamimio an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

They didn’t pay well before the AI hype, now software developers are seen far worse. The other day I was looking at embedded/robotics engineers jobs in canada, the salaries are CAD$60k to CAD$90k (far less than USD for who doesn’t know), and the job description I swear is enough to send rockets to the space, what an absolute joke. Meanwhile in the US they are paid $250k USD, with defined scope (say only vision or autonomy). Canada is a based on service economy, nursing or plumbing or similar will make better than staff software engineers, hell, a heavy equipment operator who moves few joysticks and listens to music all day make CAD$115k and unionized too.. and the delusionals think that will replace US decades of investment in tech industry while dancing to “elbows up!” in a festival.

The only way is Canada joining the EU in making their own tech, but even then, this will take at least a decade to materialize, if any, don’t forget all infrastructure hardware is still US, hp/dell/nvidia/etc plus decades of software and OSes, so yeah.